“Historic and Iconic” – Leeds United AFC
Forget March 2nd 1968, the day Leeds United won its first ever silverware, beating Arsenal at Wembley to lift the League Cup. Forget May 6th 1972 when, at the same venue, against the same opponents and by the same 1-0 score, United won their sole FA Cup. Forget, even, those three incredible days which saw the Whites hailed as the best in the land as our three Football League Championships were confirmed in 1969, 1974 and 1992. All of those dates pale in comparison with the epochal significance of the legal fixture being played out in London tomorrow, March 31st 2014. For tomorrow, it’s likely to be decided which of two well-defined paths Leeds United will be treading into the future.
On the one hand we have a signpost pointing upwards which says: possible fame and success, with a minted owner to put us on a par with those we should be emulating. On the other, there’s the signpost pointing downhill, with the equally unmistakable message: more of the same at best, with a distinct possibility of crisis and dissolution in the near future. It’s not a choice Leeds United or their amazingly loyal and long-suffering fans are able to make for themselves. We are all in the hands of the legal eagles as they fight it out over the technicality of whether or not the Football League were correct in saying that Massimo Cellino’s peccadilloes rule him out of fitness and propriety under their own test. Upon this technicality hangs the immediate, or short term – or even the whole future of a famous old club that has never been far from the headlines, for good reasons and bad.
A match-day commentator at Elland Road yesterday summed it up in one well-chosen phrase prior to kick-off against Doncaster Rovers. Leeds, he said, should be mentioned in the same breath as the likes of Arsenal, Liverpool, Man U and Chelsea. And so, of course, we should. None of these clubs has more of a right than Leeds – and its magnificent support – to be fighting it out at the top table for the big prizes. It’s ironic that such telling words should be spoken ahead of a league fixture – and a defeat – against little Donny Rovers. That sums up the dire straits Leeds have been consigned to by bad leadership, self-interested owners and relentless ill-fortune. Whatever may have been done wrong, whatever rules may have been broken in the name of Leeds United – it’s no fault of the fans. And yet, time and again, it’s been the fans who have suffered – whilst the principals in the ongoing pantomime of LS11 have generally waxed fat and walked away happy when their particular final curtain has fallen. A prime example of this is, of course, Shaun Harvey, CEO of the Football League and a man with a face in each camp, so to speak. I wonder how he sleeps at night? Blissfully, I expect.
There are two constants in any football club, which transcend players, directors, administrators, League officials and even solicitors, barristers and judges. One is the entity of the club itself, which in our case is now just five years shy of her 100th birthday. Where will she be, what state of health will she be in, when that Centenary rolls around in 2019?
The other constant is, needless to say, the supporters. Come rain, come hail, come snow, the supporters are always there. They were there to cheer on the Greatest Footballer in the World when John Charles plied his mighty trade at Elland Road. They were there to support Don Revie’s nonpareil team of the sixties and seventies as they witnessed some of the finest football ever seen on the planet. They were there too when Wilko’s Warriors rose, like a Phoenix from the ashes, to swagger back into the big time as if they owned the place and end up, once again, on top of the pile. And they’re here now, today, watching the dross currently being served up by a team weighed down with larger worries that what happens on the pitch – a team who, with a very few apparent exceptions, are preoccupied with where the next wage packet is coming from, and just how heavy or light will it be?
The supporters will be here in the future as well, whatever happens tomorrow. That is beyond doubt, save only for that nagging worry over the club’s very existence. Only the numbers of that indomitable band will remain open to any variation, depending upon which path we tread. Any Leeds United fan will tell you what the club deserves – and it’s not more of the same grinding, morale-sapping poverty that we’ve been putting up with now for twelve long and dreary years. Leeds United and their supporters – especially their supporters – deserve some time in the sun.
It’s not United – club or fans – on trial tomorrow. If anything is on trial, it’s the duty of care owed by the Football League to all of its member clubs – even Leeds. The questions before the appeal panel must include that consideration in the scope of its examination of this whole issue. The Football League have sat by and they’ve shown every willingness to let their biggest club, their most tangible asset, wither and possibly die for want of sufficient funding to operate on a big club level and compete with their true peers. And this is the kernel of the matter.
Because, with rapists, con men and porn barons among the current and recent number of their owners and directors, the League has elected to make a stand over an obscure tax question surrounding a yacht. One little boat, which might be American, and in respect of which some duty allegedly had to be paid in Italy, but was not. The League have chosen to accept that Cellino, a man of staggering wealth, would court trouble over a matter of what is, to him, small change. They have leant over backwards to interpret the law and their own regulations such that United are to be denied a saviour and their fans are to continue suffering. Where is the duty of care amid all of that?
Tomorrow will, in all probability, be the start of a new era at Leeds United. Whether it is an era of further degradation, more doubt, more humiliation, remains to be seen. There has to be a possibility that things might – for once in a very long while – go in Leeds United’s favour. And then what? Would we know quite what to do with ourselves in the absence of this millstone of penury and reduced status? Poverty is not just a matter of not being able to meet the bills, or afford a tank of tropical fish to brighten the place up. Poverty is much more than that. It seeps into the very fabric of a place and it poisons the soul. If we were suddenly to become “Dirty Leeds, Filthy Rich” – how would we cope?
I can tell you this much, especially you lot who occupy the anti-Cellino bandwagon. I’m heartily sick to death of a penniless existence. So if the “Filthy Rich” option is there, ripe for the sampling – let me at it. I’d simply love to try it out. We lived the dream in the nineties – but there was always that worm of doubt; where’s it all coming from? With Cellino – well, it looks as though we’d at last have a man of immense material wealth who is keen to invest it in reviving a fallen giant. Fingers crossed that he finally gets that chance.
Life, Leeds United, the Universe & Everything 
all to true, 50 years iv supported this great club of ours, don revie area and on, what would they make of this mess ???, lets hope for good news Monday shan’t hold my breath,,,, mot
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i meant era lol mot
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A good article and oh so true, I have everything crossed for tomorrow, I just hope that Cellino has the absolute best legal team money can buy. I feel that the board of the FL are an utter disgrace and have their own agenda and motives for what they are trying to do to LUFC.
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Could not agree more,
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Mr Cellino has shown more interest and support for our club than Bates & GFH put together.
If he decides to buy players he likes, and picks the team, he could not do worse than McDermott!!
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I’m hoping they clear Cellino to take the reigns and rescue us, but unfortunately can not see the FL doing so. I hope he sues them if/when the court case is overturned.
I believe any points deduction will now take effect next season, as the deadline was Thursday, so we should be in the Championship next season barring a 10 game losing run.
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The points deduction in an administration scenario is an each way bet. After the cut off point it applies at the start of next season UNLESS its imposition this season would spell relegation. If it would make the difference and send us down, then that is how it would apply, regardless of cut-off dates.
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Is that the case Rob,I didn’t know that was the case.A bit scary isn’t it.
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Plus it would be in the self-preservation interest of a number of clubs at the bottom for us to receive the maximum points deduction – these are the same people who will be judge and jury – how in any way shape or form is this fair or just ? Beggars belief.
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Surely the football league owe a duty of care to the butchers the bakers and the candlestick makers who will once again be shafted by leeds united if we end up in administration. Its a simple choice of doing the right thing and letting a man take charge who actually has the money to put us back on the right path or turning him down and waiting for the chaos to begin. Its a shame the football league werent so keen to stop ken bates pulling of the biggest con of all time by putting us in admin then buying us back when not offering the best deal (genius) as they are to stop mr cellino. Get cellino in, lets pay all those we owe in full and lets push on. Lets hope tomorrow is the start of a new era of hope which to be fair to those who have continued to turn up the last 10 years is the least they deserve.
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We’ll written Rob. I will await your email tomorrow with trepidation. Let’s hope something goes right for Leeds United for all our sake. The one thing above all this is the loyalty of the fans and perhaps for once the independent appeal will have one of us making that favorable decision.
Hoping to live a new dream. No more nightmares please
Steve Trebert
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With you all the way Rob for me it’s Cellino or bust, if it fails second best under this consortium will take another decade to realise any possible glory and that’s an if or a but, show me the money !!! Sad as it is it’s a money game. Gone and never to return as we did under wilko what he did with a few bob was sublime. MOT
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Maybe it’s because I’m a Leeds fan and all I’m used to recently has been the crap that we’ve been dealt. I really hope that I’m wrong this time but when does anything ever go right for this club?
There seems to be an endless queue of people and organisations that want to shaft us. The Football League, Bates, GFH, Bates again if he can get his filthy hands on us for a second time, or is that a third, I forget. Oh but hang on, he saved us didn’t he? My mistake.
I can’t see the result of this appeal tomorrow being any different from the FL’s decision last week. Surely (especially given the amount of time it took them to come up with an answer), they will have looked at all of the legal technicalities of Cellino’s case before rejecting him? They allegedly had an expert in Italian law on the case.
It just looks like more of the same shite in store for us yet again. I just hope that we’ve got enough points to stay up this season, because I can’t see us winning again any time soon.
The term ‘Long suffering fans’ was made for us. Completely pissed off with all of it. Lets not even mention the football.
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Rob, as usual, another excellent piece. I feel physically sick thinking about tomorrow’s outcome. Surely the only person who doesn’t want Cellino in, is Brian.
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What a blog, what a brilliantly written article! This paragraph is as good as any written by the great bard! A magnificent statement summing up the league emphatically! And here it is again! “Because, with rapists, con men and porn barons among the current and recent number of their owners and directors, the League has elected to make a stand over an obscure tax question surrounding a yacht. One little boat, which might be American, and in respect of which some duty allegedly had to be paid in Italy, but was not. The League have chosen to accept that Cellino, a man of staggering wealth, would court trouble over a matter of what is, to him, small change. They have leant over backwards to interpret the law and their own regulations such that United are to be denied a saviour and their fans are to continue suffering. Where is the duty of care amid all of that.” Well done Rob, glad you are on our side!
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Thanks mate, truly appreciated.
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Bluesman is absolutely right about the importance of the sentiment expressed in that paragraph. Being Leeds, we all expect the worst, so how about a tiny glimmer of good in this situation? From a sale, GFH will get some money and keep a 25% interest, Administration would mean them losing millions, It’s a shame that the money they are stealing from us under the guise of ‘consultancy fees’ (what consultancy??) cannot be reclaimed. Admittedly, I’d much prefer Cellino to be successful, but a tiny crumb of comfort would be better than none. Incidentally, how would it work with Cellino owning 75% but putting in 100% of the money, and GFH claiming 25% of any future value?
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Now THAT’S a question. It sounds as if, as the old’uns say, GFH want the spice AND the ha’penny!
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Rob, it us disgraceful that the FL have taken this stance. At least the QC will be independent and honest and truthful. Cellino is not disqualified as a director and in my view that is KEY! Let the good times roll (fingers crossed)
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This appeal in short do we want to keep leeds United afloat so they can pay all their suppliers and back room staff, and everybody wins. Or do they put us into administration were there are no winners everybody loses. There is only one sensible decision. Cellino in MOT
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I just wish I could believe they’d view it in such pragmatic terms. They need to have an eye on the greater good – including as you say all those smaller businesses for whom United are a significant income stream. But there’s no off-season for LUFC-bashing. I hope for the best but, as ever, fear the worst.
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The board of the FL are very dubious, I will not say corrupt for obvious reasons. However I would like to see them in court, to explain why they have ratified so many owner’s with far more serious convictions, to own Football Clubs. It is obvious to all, that it is a vendetta against LUFC, why I don’t know, but whatever the outcome tomorrow, lets have them in court.
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You Know what day it is tuesday dont you?
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Ken Bates Day?
Oh, All Fools Day, you mean – or Paul Mcknockiter Day as it’s sometimes known. Same thing 😉
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Its my daughters birthday on the 31st of march ( tomorrow ) , so I have every faith this mess will be sorted out and we’ll batter charlton on Tuesday and come Wednesday morning we’ll all be looking forward to a brighter future ,,
ARE YOU LISTENING FOOTBALL LEAGUE?
DON’T MAKE ME COME DOWN THERE !!!
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Gerrem telled, Mr O. And happy birthday to Ms O 🙂
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I hope it´s not another to add to the What if ? list.
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Let’s all hope and pray tonight that things do go our way. One more thing Rob can you please help by calling him Massimo and not by his last name imagine if we were called by our surname we would not be very pleased.
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I take your point, Rishworth. Only kidding!! The thing is, I have to avoid any appearance of “cosying up” – people expect that.
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It really is an odd one this boat business, whilst I hate the rich using tax planning to make paying taxes optional to them, I believe in this case it is more a case of tax avoidance rather than tax evasion. i.e. a rich fella putting his assets in a company name to lessen his tax burden, rather than not declaring it at all. I suspect that in this country it would have been classed as avoidance and declared legit or non legit at a tribunal meaning nothing worse than Mr. Cellino being asked to pay the tax/duty etc with little or no penalty. I don’t know if the Italian authorities have the tax tribunal sysytem but it appears not. As for the FL they are now chasing their own tails in this case having to wrestle with my favourite phrase of the past two weeks – the law of unintended consequence. Do they allow our club to be taken over by a man with money who pushes the envelope when dealing with his tax affairs or leave it with a bunch of skint, asset strippers with no respect for the club, support or in the end the FL. Duty of care suggests they should opt for the former and I only hope the QC agrees tomorrow.
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Great points, well argued. I wish we had you and Max in the appeal room tomorrow!
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Probably best not me. I do think he was evading taxes. On the related case of his Range Rover, his excuse is that he “forgot”. I think it’s a function of a culture in Southern Europe where the rich think that only idiots end up paying their taxes.
My actual issue with it is:
– that under Italian law he is not guilty yet, and the likelihood is that (as mostly happens in the UK by the way, in fraud cases, because by and large juries don’t understand the deep technical issues involved in tax fraud) he’ll get off eventually
– that, if he is guilty, the PL & FL have passed far far worse than this,
– the press has not kicked up anywhere near the same fuss about many of the other directors, and actively ignore issues regarding the ones in higher reaches of the PL, some of whom are Magneto-class supervillains
– that, because of a system which allows crooks to be passed at the highest level, the distorting effect throughout the rest of the sport actually mitigates against anyone honestly running a football club with honestly won money.
The PL/FL should fix the system first, then run the housecleaning. At the moment they’re turning away people with a cold from having a cruise on a plague ship.
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I can’t help but feel that the FL have been made aware of Together Leeds now,all thought of benevolence will make it easier for them to still say no,not forgetting there is still 2 FL members &1 outnumbered QC? to vote,what do you all think?
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From my not inconsiderable knowledge of tribunals, it’s extremely rare for the legally qualified member to be out-voted by the lay members. On the other hand, this IS Leeds United…
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yes I admit it, im obsessed with sean Harvey. The man who sat on the lufc board and happily sanctioned the mortgage of season ticket sales, the obscene east stand building project, the sale of the cream of our best players and tossed peanuts at the current and previous two managers to try and build a team worthy of the clubs great name.
Id love to win the lottery but Id happily forgo that for just five minutes on my own with sean harvey.
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Join the queue mate. And bring your own baseball bat.
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Rob
Well whatever our opinions they don’t really count as we have no influence.
For what it is worth I am happy to be in the minority that doesn’t want Cellino to succeed- nor do I think he will.
Let’s face it the Football League would look stupid if they overturned their previous decision.
What I don’t understand is the Leeds’ support obsession with him
There seems to be a belief he will have a legal case- I am not a lawyer but his seem incompetent- remember the statements that he had no case to answer in Italian law- wrong.
Remember the incompetent English lawyer he hired back in January?
Yes he is a billionaire- but one who hasn’t put a bean into Cagliari
Yes he has put money into Leeds so far- but if he is as clever as he thinks he is he will have made sure it is GFH the Bank who have to pay him back not LUFC as he has no chance of getting any money back from that route
Our only hope is the Together Leeds group- any group that has Adam Pearson in gets my vote- saved Hull City and Derby from similar messes and look where they are now
Get over the hatred of Mike Farnon- he was a paid employee of Man U – and Sunderland for that matter- but he knows English Football inside out
The only condition has to be that, unlike with the Cellino deal, GFH get out completely.
My only worry is that GFH out of obstinancy won’t sell to him and we get some other rich guy/consortium who know nothing about football- someone like the rich but interfering owner at Forest for example who has blown their chances of promotion by interfering in team selection.
One thing we can agree on- we desperately need a good owner and we are well overdue one.
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You may well end up right about Cellino being finally rejected – but I still feel your reasoning is flawed. For instance, it’s nigh-on impossible for the FL to look bigger arseholes than they already do.
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Mishcon de Reya (his current UK solicitors) are one of the top law firms in England. Having said that, Chris Farnell (the lawyer used to fire BM) does have (or had) a decent reputation as a sports lawyer, I suspect there is more to come out there to be honest.
The position at Cagliari – it’s not clear how much money he has put in, I think he hasn’t had to put money in in recent years as Cagliari have been able to develop youth players, buy in players from South America and sell at a profit and still stay in mid-Serie A. If we get to that point (stable mid-PL) as a next step, fine. Neither TL or Cellino can probably get us to the higher reaches of the PL in the next few years.
The short term advantage to Leeds of Cellino is access to Cagliari scouts to build up a promotion-challenging team on the cheap. In the middle of this, we also have the issue of Financial Fair Play, which if enforced per the rules is going to prevent anyone from spending real money to get promotion, other than clubs with their revenue artificially inflated by parachute payments.
Having said that, and with the qualification that we know next to nothing about the TL bid, I’d be happy with Farnan. I would just be happy to get past this episode, rid of GFH and go back to talking about football.
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Had written this as a comment at TSS on the bizarre, crazy daisy interview with Bates that appeared late last night. But it makes more sense here I think. It’s not really a comment on Bates. Bates is an idiot and I can’t be bothered to try and pick apart the truth and the lies any more. The other day he said he wasn’t bidding on Leeds, now I’m not so sure. Maybe that, apart from anything else, may scare the FL into passing Cellino.
The problem at Leeds, historically, is that ideally you would want a combination of all of the following from the club’s owners and directors:
– integrity
– business competence
– money
– alignment of their interests with those of the club
I’d argue that pretty much since the club was sold to Caspian, nobody has scored 4 out of 4. Go through Caspian, Ridsdale, Mackenzie, Krasner, Bates, GFH and the maximum in any case you might score is a 2, and mostly it’s a zero (I may be being unfair on including Krasner here, he was obviously out of his depth but the depth in which he was left to swim was very deep indeed; but had he run a proper administration exercise when he had the chance, I think we’d be back in the PL by now).
The evidence on Cellino is that he’s a rogue, but at least he scores in the other departments. Together Leeds – well we wait and see, they might score a 4. Right now I’d be happy with either of those, just because both are better than a 2, and I’m fed up of settling for 2 out of 4 at best, and mostly zero.
And for all the calls for fan engagement, take a look at that list again. I know what we’d get with LUST in charge, which is basically the WACCOE party in power. Bates having a go at Gary Cooper is being his usual unprincipled idiot self, and I wouldn’t question LUST’s integrity or their support for the best interests of the club, but the best they’re going to score is a 2 as well. No thanks.
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Despite the fact that he’s obviously certifiable, my preference is Cellino – he’s loaded, passionate and impatient – three things our club needs to get back where it belongs. That said GFH do have another option – ‘Together Leeds’ are still in the mix and Farnan is certainly talking a good game and with Verity and Pearson on board I would certainly have no issues with them taking over.
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If Cellino had tried to buy any other buisness in any other industry no one would bat an eyelid. His offer is accepted, the lawyers do the paper work, the parties sign the paperwork, the money or stock options are exchanged
and the parties go their separate ways happy.
Now buy a football club. You agree to buy the club, exchange contracts and put some intermediate working capital. In come the football authorities.
The premier league swimming in money accepts anyone with money, so long as theres money slushing around everythings ok. But wait, it suddenly becomes obvious that anyone getting relegated is doomed to liquidation,nevermind administration. Worse yet, someone may go bust whilst in the premier league. Herald the payments to clubs falling out of the league. Worse yet the share of the money is paid in advance of the season to keep a club alive.
With the exception of a handful of clubs throughout the premier and football leagues most run consistently in debt. Administrations occur regularly, football clubs fail to pay wages let alone the taxes due.
Yet the gods that sit as overseers of the league set themselves up as a judge and jury over would be owners.
THe gods have sanctioned some apparently very dubious owners. Portsmouth had a handful of owners, one of them twice, whilst one of our greatest clubs, Liverpool, struggled to find anyone to buy them. So one has to question the motives of owners. Are clubs something to cherish, nuture and build or are they being used for tax mitigation or even perhaps more shady laundry purposes.
Didn’t Man City have a very dubious owner, is it Birmingham whose owner is currently warming a bench in a prison cell for 6 years (fit and proper?) at Cardiff the owner has removed years of identity by changing the kit,and are Hull to become Tigers for real to the total chagrin of the fans.
Is there a point at which a prospective owner is so wealthy that it becomes impossible fail the ‘improper person test’ for fear of ‘deformation of character’ law suit.
Cellino may or may not pass scrutiny tommorrow but i would question the authority of the football league to pass judgement where there are so many holes in the process. Finally, i would question the impartiality of the members of this committee where they hold a vested interest which may be used to affect the competitiveness of their opponents
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Sean Harvey, no longer welcomed in Leeds, you are an outcast.
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With the threat of administration looming if Cellino loses tomorrow the lost points will prove crucial. You would think mcdermott and gfh had done all this on purpose really,as it all seems that no-one could possibly be this incompetent. Whoever takes over tomorrow knows what to do straightaway and don’t give the bastard any compensation either. He should be dismissed for getting the job under false pretences. I sincerely hope all gfh shares are bought up too,as they have proved beyond all doubt that thay are unfit to own a club.
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your twisting my melons man
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Top job Rob, spot on again! To think that our whole future hinges on the purchase of a nautical vessel! Fingers crossed for tomorrow, although we all know that those set of cretins will never do anything good for our club.
Which is why I suggest we get hold of Nelie, give her a good old fashioned Yorkshire Viking funeral, with a specially selected set of passengers who could burn away with her (please feel free to suggest any names – I’m sure we’ve all got a list, in fact to coin a phrase we’ll probably ‘need a bigger boat’ to get them all on). I’d even volunteer to push the boat out myself…
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I fear that your optimism may be misplaced a Rob.Remember, the appeal is trying to overturn a decision made by the FL board no doubt on legal advice.
Let’s hope Mr C has a plan B.
Still don’t understand why he didn’t appoint his son and daughters backside to the board of his company and he could remain an adviser a la Ridsdale at PNE thereby side stepping the unfit and improper test.
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I think the problem there is that things have been tightened up on the delegation dodge i.e. using friends or family as a front. Now the authorities want to know where the money is coming from.
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Every ownership of a fl club should be reviewed annually. That way they can not only keep an eye on Cellino but also the likes of Birmingham,Portsmouth, etc. What has happened at Pompey is a damn disgrace and it could easily happen to us.
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Football League rules disqualify people only if: “They have UNSPENT convictions for offences of dishonesty, corruption, perverting the course of justice, serious breaches of the Companies Act or conspiracy to commit any of those offences.” If Mr Cellino pays his outstanding tax bill wouldn’t this conviction be spent?
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Another well written article ROB,My bigger worry is that if massimo is turned down is that wet spam will get there hands on mcc and southampton will get byrum ect.ect. I have my fingers crossed he is allowed to seal the deal and make us better[we cant be any worse at the min] will it settle the squad if he buys us or will it make certain players worse coz they will know they are gone in the summer[i hope they are gone in the summer].Lets just hope that justice is served to us loyal leeds fans that go week in week out spending money we cant afford to to see the droll we see now.I just want it to be over one way or another hopefully with massimo at the helm if not that big abyss is waiting to suck us in again.Will tl have the money to keep us afloat or improve us i think keep us afloat if there offer was only 7 mil like reported we will just be like we are now not even a good champ side but with wages paid. Fl are totally against leeds improving and getting to prem, where would they get there big gates from def not from two 3rds of the championship we have the biggest away support even bigger than most prem teams so they would get no benefit from it,and it wouldnt surprise me if the QC is in the fl back pocket.OH that would be under handed wouldnt it not that the fl are ??????????????????????????????????????????
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Ooh you cynic 😉
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ITS QUITE SIMPLE Cellino comes in and we are saved,other wise with points off this season we are down ,for all those against Pay up 25 million
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Apparently it only cost that scum fan £850 to hire a plane to fly over their craphole with that “moyes out” banner. How much do you reckon a Lancaster or a Spitfire (fully armed of course) would cost for tuesday night? Or better still a mitsubishi zero aimed at the home dugout or directors box?
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Toma! Toma! Toma!!
See what I did there? 🙂
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Hey mate,top man. I’m gutted that i didn’t think of that. Bollocks. Superb,nice one. If only stewart or kebe could set them up like that. Thats a pint you owe me.ha ha.
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I’ve just heard a rumour that Harvey’s saying Cellino will be approved this week, and that the League were just trying to ensure the test looks difficult – they don’t want Leeds in admin, and Cellino was always going to be approved. I’m about to publish a blog on the strength of it. If it happens to be right, I shall be expecting everybody to buy ME drinks 🙂
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Them scummers make me laugh, hiring a plane because they’re not happy with the way things are going… If we applied that logic the sky over ER would be like Heathrow…
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Is this rumour from a trusted and reliable source? Do you think it’s your threat of baseball bats or my threat of vintage warplanes and suicidal Japanese pilots?
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I really don’t know – but it’s positive, so I’m clinging to it!
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Well can you elaborate further? This will be brilliant if it were true,but it’s out in the ether now so you could lose all credibility if not. You’ve got some balls either way. By the way,can i recommend Wilko Johnson and Roger Daltrey to everyone? Two serious legends and it’s a tenner from all good record shops. If anyone gets a chance to see Wilko,get in there. He’s a god.
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You’re showing your age, Mick – this is Wilko late of the Blockheads, right? I could have published a screenshot of the tweets concerned, but I don’t know the guy personally and I didn’t want to be responsible for him getting deluged! As for me, I’m just passing on what I’ve heard – I don’t think credibility really comes into it (I hope not)
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Yep i was 50 on saturday,i showed my age blogs ago when i divulged that my first game at Ellan Road was 29th March 75: wilko wa indeed in the Blockheads but more importantly in Dr Feelgood,i got into theme quite late as John Gyppo Mayo was guitarist by 78 when they got my full attention. It defies physics how Wilko plays guitar,it really does. You haven’t lived until you’ve been machine gunned by him. Anyway,credibility could go out the window if your source is wrong or you could be legendary if it all proves correct.
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Happy Birthday for Saturday, shame the lads let you down. I was always more ELO, Blondie and Queen myself – later it was Whitesnake, Rainbow, the Pistols and Led Zep. Now it’s Ralph Vaughan Williams and Arthur Sullivan! I’ve no wish to be a legend and credibility is so variable – there’s many who hate every word I write…
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Superb piece Rob – and so it begins…..
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