Ranieri for Leeds United: Would Whites Fans Welcome the Tinkerman?   –   by Rob Atkinson


Claudio Ranieri – is the Tinkerman next through the Elland Road revolving door?

In the unlikely event that a so-called newspaper, whose name I shall not publicise further here, has actually got it right for once – an intriguing name has cropped up as a possible replacement at Leeds United for what would be a very unlucky and ill-used departing manager in Garry Monk

The possibility of Claudio Ranieri fancying a crack at the Elland Road hot-seat was raised by a contributor to a recent article on this blog. NickB, 50 years a Leeds fan, ended a long and entertaining comment by asking “When does Ranieri’s gardening leave come to an end ?!” Another regular contributor, Leeds Mick, agreed with Nick, stating that Ranieri “would be a damn good appointment”. But what do other Leeds fans think?

Leaving aside the vexed question of whether Ranieri would touch us with the proverbial barge pole, which would have a lot to do with the ownership situation, the prospect of the Tinkerman would indeed be fascinating. With a recent Premier League title on his CV, Claudio is a very likeable man who seems to have a magic managerial touch in the right situation. It’s no exaggeration to say that what he pulled off at Leicester City qualifies as the biggest football miracle of all time, bar none. So, could Leeds United benefit from a touch of diddly-ding, diddly-dong?

I still feel that the Monk story was nothing more than a clueless hack spouting bollocks. And I still feel that Monk deserves the faith and belief of Leeds United, together with full back-up for team building and a proper pre-season – neither of which he had for the campaign now ending in gallant failure. 

Still – Ranieri. Likeable, credible, available Ranieri. It is interesting – isn’t it? Would it be feasible, a welcome sign of ambition – or utter foolhardiness and ungrateful to Monk as well? Your thoughts, as ever, would be appreciated. 

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52 responses to “Ranieri for Leeds United: Would Whites Fans Welcome the Tinkerman?   –   by Rob Atkinson

  1. Well it would be a bold move to replace monk rob but if the board did replace him then it would take a big name to appease the fans so you might be on to something..

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  2. Matthew Jackson

    If Ranieri agreed it would be a good move I should think. I think Monk did o.k. but I still hate the way he let us get humiliated at Sutton, sold Mowatt, and couldn’t finish the season well. As , or more important, is will Leeds keep their best players, we always seem to sell our best players. I think Roofe is a very good prospect.

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  3. Yes please! Imagine the calibre of player he’d attract. Cellino would have to be gone though. He should have no more say in anything at ER ever again.

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  4. Monk is the best thing to hit Leeds in the last 15 years at least and the main players we want to keep seem to love him. It would be typical Leeds and suicidal to f++k up this year’s planning when we have vastly over-achieved for the investment input and the last straw for me personally when a season ticket holder for many years in the Bremner Suite can’t renew because “We are changing it to hospitality” and 6 days before the deadline still no news. Management at club is still a joke – it’s only the team and Monk that will keep me there in my 68th year. 450 mile round trip to home matches is getting tiring!
    Gerry Cwmbran

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  5. If this were to happen, I’d be more disappointed than thrilled. More disappointed at the fact we hadn’t give Monk another roll at the dice than thrilled we have just appointed someone that most recently won the Premier League.

    It would also be very difficult to say it was a credible decision to appoint Ranieri when the club would lose so much credibility letting go of Monk.

    My head and my heart say Monk; all day, every day.

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  6. C.Hansford.

    I have to say ,I am disappointed with all the propaganda and speculation surrounding Mr Monk and our beloved team especially as the season hasn’t finished yet.
    Why do we have to suffer the incredible poor taste reporting that spouts so much negativity and puts a dampener on what has in the whole been a very good season.
    Propagandist reporting just encourages more speculation and rumour and alienates the diehard fans.
    Please report on known facts it makes for a more interesting read.
    Thank you.

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    • You seem unaware Mr Hansford that nobody prospers here by trying to tell me what to write and what not to write. Future comments in a similar vein will be ruthlessly binned.

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  7. C.Hansford.

    My humble apologies,
    Not a direct dig at you Mr Atkinson but towards the cynical news article you mention of a “so called Newspaper”.

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  8. Robert Colegate

    Monk has earned another season, had he been supported in the January transfer window things may have been different. As for Ranieri – well one swallow doesn’t make a summer. All the time Cellino is at Leeds we will never have any stability. It wouldn’t surprise me to see the heart of the team sold before Monk goes. If Cellino has any intention of keeping Monk his contract would be sorted out immediately to give him the chance to prepare for next season. And notice I haven’t mentioned Radrizzani he may own 50% of the Club but Cellino is pulling the stings. Radrizzani stated a few months ago he wanted to keep Monk and if that’s the case he need to grow some dangly bits and prove it.

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  9. Monk must be given a new contract. What do Leeds fans want? It’s been the best season in many a long year. If Fulham had lost yesterday we’d be hoping for a win and a draw v Wendies for them. There must be no wallowing in pity. Yes Ranieri is a good manager,but so is Monk. He MUST be given another season at the least and our best players not sold,yet again. *Sigh*.
    It seems only a few days since we were in the play off positions month after month. I think Ranieri would rather plant flowers than dig a bigger hole for mad Massimo top push him into!

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  10. Peter duval

    I am a fan of Gary Monk, I think he’s done a great job but I am concerned in the manner of our end of season collapse.
    Ideally Monk to stay and be supported by investment we desperately need a better midfield and forward players
    This said, I feel that if Mr R and C intended to keep Monk then the deal would have been done back in a January together with the obvious additional players that were needed – if Monk leaves and I suspect he will either due to a poor offering or dismissal then Raneri would have to top the bill – a great tactician and proven record. I would hope that if Raneri did replace Monk that he would be given investment and a contract of no less than 3 years to develop a premiership team

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  11. Why would we really want to get rid of a management team that have got us much further than anyone predicted (after all, we were initially among the relegation favourites). They also seem to have the respect of the players, so to replace them with someone who was sacked for apparently losing his team’s respect is nothing short of lunacy. It ought to be obvious to any with more than a single brain cell that the problem lies higher up. Our squad was vastly inferior to many others and there was no apparent meaningful to improve the position in January. What I don’t know is if the problem is solely Cellino or if they are both as bad!

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  12. would be the right move. Monk has his strength but half of what he brought in where not all that good-let be honest!

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    • if you listen to radrizaani then cellino made the call on many of the players brought in………..so you can blame the mad one for that but in reality bringing in 10 players each summer is a complete gamble, some will work some wont………..we need stability to move away from that

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  13. Ranieri should have been brought in as soon as he was sacked by Leicester to save the season from being messed up by Monk.

    The Leeds job needs an experienced manager who knows how to win, I can’t believe anyone in their right mind would rather have Monk than Ranieri.

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    • Ranieri was rubbished by the Leicester fans this season, and he had to be sacked to give them a chance to secure their Premier League position – how is that encouraging for us?

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      • You could say the same about Monk at Swansea, and he didn’t win the title.

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      • Garry Monk is a manager on the up – Ranieri is on his way down. Why do you think that a number of other clubs are already being linked with Monk even before he is available – who has been linked with Ranieri even though he has been free for the past 3 months?

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    • Long Throw

      Was Don Revie experienced when he came in?

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  14. PeacockMan

    Does anyone think that maybe there may be some collusion with Mr Radrizzani and Mr Monk, …. I am thinking and this is just a devilish thought, that as Leeds have not progressed to the premier league this season that Mr Radrizzani will now purchase the remainder of Mr Cellinos’ shares in the club.

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  15. Chris Wheeler

    Crunch time for sure and hope Radrizzani will buy out Cellino and that he will then be in full control and more inclined to invest big time in squad and dare we hope buy back Elland Road! Maybe Jan window was quiet because Cellino wasn’t prepared (or couldn’t) invest in the squad to same level as Radrizzani. Bravo appointment hopefully a major statement of intent.
    I think Monk deserves a 2nd season with a better squad but not totally convinced by his tactics. We improved our passing game notably right up to the Derby home game but then seemed to go backwards tactically after that. Ranieri not right man in my view & think they would go for a younger progressive foreign coach, if Monk does not get deserved 2nd shot.

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  16. I for the life of me can’t understand fellow Leeds supporter who are saying this is our best season for years etc. We are in the Championship and will be for another year. Can we all raise our sights and demand a great deal more please. After all We Are Leeds and as the great man Billy Bremner,s Autobiography states “You Get Nowt For Being Second”. Ideally we need a manager who can make the transition from Championship to Premier League effortlessly,Ranieri could but Monk couldn’t.

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    • It’s the best season for years because it’s the first time for years that we’ve finished quite a bit higher than most people thought we would (bookies had us among the relegation favourites!).

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      • Yes but Reading and Huddersfield fans would probably say the same about their seasons. We’ve had the best season since Simon Grayson, I agree, but our dramatic falling away in April nevertheless needs explaining. Is it us ? Do we both hope and fear too much and does this somehow adversely affects both manager and players ? Do we want it too badly ?

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      • Our squad depth and quality are far below those teams, so any comparison would have to bear in mind that we are greatly above where the pundits expected. Also, Cellino gave nothing of any value in Jan. We have no-one to control midfield.

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  17. Mr Radrizzani could have financed signings that would have left us in play offs or better in January. The q i ask is why not? Talk is cheap. So far he has delivered nothing in real investment. The top clubs all blew us away with what they were willing to pay. Ultimately,despite a great effort the quality was not there. I hope Hudds draw Fulham as they will whup them.

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  18. I have been a Leeds fan for over 50 years and I cant believe how fickle and amnestic some of our current supporters are. Lets be honest, how many actually believed we would be in the position we find ourselves now at the start of the season? I’m pretty sure quite a few canny season ticket holders were damn certain they were getting them with 25% off (top 10 finish remember). Question, are you annoyed or happy now that you have to pay full price? Hopefully you’re happy and not petulant. Gary Monk and Pep have worked wonders with an average team this season, and some people seriously consider getting rid of him as a good idea?? Give me a break.
    Who except for the most delirious and myopic would think we would stand a cats chance in hell in the premier league with the core of the team we have now. It would need a whole scale restructuring, when Wilko got us back last time he did so with a team that was forged in the old 2nd division and ready to take on all comers when they were promoted. At least give Monk and his team a chance to do the same and stop playing into media crappola that gets managers sacked for next to nothing these days. I for one am disappointed that we didn’t make the play-offs, but as a Leeds supporter I’m happier than I have been in almost a decade. Thank you Gary, MOT.

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    • Steve Evans boldly proclaimed we would finish top six were he at the helm,so with that in mind Monk who has a lot more about him should have exceeded that. Anyway,we may have overlooked Nigel Pearson,it was effectively his side that Ranieri steered to the title.

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  19. Don’t care who you bring in. Monk deserves at least another season with investment from the board. Anything else stinks.
    The seasons not even over and we are right back in the the s**t where we have ended up from one rotten year to the other. Bring in the next mug.

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  20. Sorry mate, on this our thoughts diverge, I dont rate the Tinkerman…….i think what he did right at Leicester was simply riding the wave that was already there without his usual tinkering……..everything was just right….Kante, the hunger of the players etc..more credit is deserved by the previous manager who laid the foundations. I think Monk is far better than Ranieri……Monk seems to have an added edge of steel and is able to create results where they shouldnt happen given Leeds have one of the worst midfeilds in the top half of the CHamp

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  21. Not sure, Rob. Ranieri’s a lovely fella, and what Leicester achieved was amazing. But how much of that success had been set-up by the previous manager? Then there was the post-title implosion. I remember we had it too under Wilko (not one away win if I remember correctly) so maybe other teams just sussed them out? Can happen when a team does not strengthen even after a major success.

    But – like you – I think The Scum “story” is bollocks. Main thing is that Monk is given the wads to improve the squad and keep our better players.

    DublinLeedsFan.

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  22. Presumably the owners will ask Monk for his analysis of how he thinks the season has gone, listen closely to his explanation for the startling statistics of the last nine games (9 out of a possible 27 points) and then enquire if there is anything he would do differently were we were to find ourselves in a similar situation next season. They might also throw out questions about plan B’s, and particular players (Jannson, Taylor, for example) and even ask him about the coaching staff. If they do all this, I’d accept whatever conclusion they come to. Ranieri would not be my first portion call were I seeking an alternative, however.

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    • mrbigwheels

      Couldn’t have put it better Irving.
      Ranieri was lucky with that Team…
      Shakespeare, Pearson and the Director of football built that Prem win.
      If Cellino does go…. the cupboards will be cleaned out…. imo.

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  23. Blue Monday

    I agree that the paper in question, as other papers and blogs (yours excepted) frequently do, are creating a non story at the moment. However, whilst the current management practices exist it would not be a surprise if Mr Monk did get the bullet. I for one think he more than deserves a crack at a full season where his influence on what is a sound foundation should be realised. If indeed he does get pushed out, then Mr Raniera would be a great choice but, with the question still unanswered as to what went wrong at Leicester this season then may be, even if he did want to come, he may not have what it takes to fend off the boardroom wolves?

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  24. Well if what Leicester did was down to the previous manager then let’s get him in.

    But if you said get Pearson everyone would say he only just kept Leicester up, when they were good enough to win the title, and then got sacked at Derby.

    You could say Monk’s good season at Swansea was down to the work of the previous manager, the one who won them the League Cup.

    You could say if Rosler hadn’t brought Chris Wood in then we’d have really struggled this season.

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  25. Pep Clotet is the unsung hero this season, for the first time in as long as I can remember we have a forward thinking, dynamic coaching team.

    The points gained in matches that we’ve been played off the park this season are testament to coaching team doing their homework and getting the playing each game on the merits of the opponents.

    With a proper pre-season and Monk being given backing from the owners in the transfer market the back room team are good enough to Put a side out there with its own style of play with its own identity so opponents have to set up to play against us.

    Letting go of Monk and his team would be a massive step backwards.

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  26. Moyle Stroller

    Ranieri did a great job at Leicester but I doubt if he or even Mourinho would have got us up this season. Monk did a fantastic job with what he had at his disposal. This is the first time for years that we were involved until the death. However, a lot of points were won through desire and commitment…imagine what we could have achieved (and can possibly achieve in the near future) with the right investment. Without that investment we could have the ‘so called’ best manager in the world but would remain in the Championship. Monk has proved his credentials and definitely deserves an extension. When are they going to realise that there is no quick fix at Leeds, We have to build and gradually progress a la Brighton. Mind you, I thought Redfearn and Evans deserved another year!! I guess its just not the Italian way!!

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  27. David Dean

    It looks on the cards that the Monk will get his cards. If that happens then Bartley leaves and Pontus also. I read that Radz said at the dinner Saturday night that there are a few more weeks to wait re the manager. Smoke without fire? Yes it happens but not offen at the Theatre of Nightmares. I really do hope Monk is given the opportunity he has earned and deserved. Cellino is now history and Radz is clearly taking the club forward the way he wants to do it. He has many pots to piss in – unlike his current partner – and if he has decided to get rid of the Monk then we can only hope that he wants to throw money at it and make sure of promotion next season. Bravo coming in is ominous, the silence on Monk is deafening. Hope we don’t repeat the McDermott, Redders and Evans scenario. If the baton is to be handed over it needs doing now – season over let’s get on with it – whatever ‘it’ is.

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  28. Interesting thought , but come on let’s get real , whilst he may drop into the championship , backing of the owners and amount to spend on players would be top of his wish list , hardly things we excel at .
    What GM has done this year with this group of players is amazing , come on who actually thought early September we’d be …… off having just missed out on the play offs . Pains me to admit it , but look what the dog botherers did last year . Stick with your manager , back him & PLANNING FOR NEXT SEASON STARTS NOW .

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  29. NickB(50yrsLU)

    Oh dear; it was just a throw-away line. I had no idea that it would be picked up and chewed over like this. Clearly, Leeds is more important than was admitted two blogs ago, unless I missed some irony there. I think many of us are in two minds about Monk. I wasn’t enthusiastic when he was appointed. I was at that QPR match – we made them look like Fulham. But, little by little, he worked at the short, triangular passing moves and was criticised by macho Yorkshire stalwarts who said it was nancy-boy football. What is undeniable is his tremendous man-management skills. Whoever would have thought back in August, after the Loftus Road faithful were endlessly chanting “Greeno”, when his fumble caused one of their three goals, that Green and Wood would play blinders all season ? Then, there’s Jansson’s idol-worship of him, and his warrior spirit.
    What slightly worries me is that we have many players who never quite clicked in the way our defence did, including Roofe, Sacko, Vieira, Philips, Pedraza and others. Why is it that the coaching team was able to make a water-tight defence but couldn’t produce an effective midfield or strike force ? Each game was a bit like London in the Blitz, determined not to let the Fokkers get St. Paul’s, with the odd sortie over the channel to catch the Huns unawares ! Is that down to Clotet or Beatty, rather than Monk ?
    I’m not convinced Monk has the ability to produce a well-rounded team, even with the sort of quality players all our erstwhile play-off rivals had. Had we scraped into the play-offs, it would have been as embarrassing as at QPR.
    Regarding the end of season collapse, something odd seemed to have happened during the Internationals break; there were rumours that Wood was injured, and he wasn’t really himself for the rest of the campaign. If I could pin it down to one incident, it might be Taylor’s inadvertent assist for Kermorgant in the Reading game. Well, he’s off anyway, so we need a new left back. (We have to get rid of Cooper too; that wasn’t so much dirty Leeds as Cantona losing it with the fan.) Could it be that word got around the team that the owners had told Monk to make sure we didn’t get promoted ? Seeing all the stretched sinews and pulsing arteries up to that point, is it plausible that they all came back and decided, “Nah, we’ve been overdoing it” ? Is it the Bates clause, or, as someone here suggested, orders from Radrizzani so that he can buy out Cellino more cheaply ? Yet, what we reckon we know of AR is that he’s weak; but, can any successful businessman be weak ? So many questions; too few answers !

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  30. Karl Major

    Story out today that Radz will complete the takeover in the next fortnight.
    Then we’ll see what his intentions are, whether he sacks Monk or not (and I hope he gives him another 3 years) I believe that Radz will invest in the squad and we will have a real good go next season.
    I think the lack of investment in Jan was down to Cellino and not being in the play offs is worth it if it means that he will soon be gone.
    As for needing an experienced manager at LEEDS, we’ve had them before and most were crap. REMEMBER the Don had no experience and he created a monster feared around Europe, he just needed the time, 3 years to hit the big time.
    My opinion for what it’s worth is that LUFC needs a bit of stability, give Monk 3 years and spend 20 mil on a better quality and deeper squad. That sort of investment should reap the rewards we all crave.
    MOT

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