Why Liverpool Are Still the Greatest Champions


Liverpool: Champions of Champions

Liverpool: Champions of Champions

Liverpool entertain Man U at Anfield tomorrow (Sunday) in the latest meeting between clubs who, to say the least, aren’t exactly fond of each other.  Rivalry of that depth and bitterness tends to polarise opinion – there aren’t many fence-sitters when one of these fixtures crops up.  OK, so I’m a Leeds United fan – so what has this got to do with me?

Well, I’d have to start by declaring an interest – as a die-hard supporter of the One True United from the right (Yorkshire) side of the Pennines, I’m not exactly enamoured of Man U.  I never had much time for them, even before that awful, whisky-nosed Govan Git came down to pour his choleric bile all over what had, until then, been a relatively civilised (give or take Brian Clough and nearly all the fans) English football scene.  There was always an air of spurious arrogance about them, as well as this “you’ve got to love us because of the Busby Babes” thing – which all the media seemed to lap up so eagerly, much to the disgust of real fans everywhere.  So clearly, I don’t like them – never did.  That’s in my Leeds United DNA.  But I’m not just a Leeds fan, I’m a fan of football in its widest sense – and I mourn the game we once knew which seems to be gone forever, swept away by a grotty tide of filthy lucre

Time was when Man U were grudgingly respected, other than by determined haters like me and my fellow Whites.  Since Sir Alex Taggart landed at the Theatre of Hollow Myths though, they’ve gone from “quite easy to dislike” to “impossible to stand the sight of” faster than you could say “Envious of Liverpool”.  The Purple-Conked One made it clear from the off that he was determined to “knock Liverpool off their perch”.  What we didn’t realise when he started his vendetta in 1988, showing no immediate sign of being any more successful than any of the other post-Busby failures, was that the whole face of football would have to change to realise Ferguson’s warped dream.

In 1967, Man U won their last ever proper League Title, making seven in total – quite respectable.  Then – nothing, for 26 years.  Since 1993, when a greedy Aussie bought the game and gift-wrapped it for a curmudgeonly Scot, the title “race” has been more of a procession.  The honour has ceased to be about virtuosity on the field; now it’s mainly about money and markets, and Man U have had much more of both during the whole Murdoch era.  Result: thirteen plastic titles.

Football is now a tacky, merchandise-driven, unseemly drive for profit over pride, and the dominance by Man U of such a grubby era is undeniably apt.  But we are still close enough in time to the pre-greed days for those of us of a certain age to remember when the game was about glory, not greed; when the aim was winning, not wonga, when the important people were supporters, not shareholders.  In those days, the distribution of wealth was far more even, and the field of possible title-winners was far wider; the competition (over a grueling 42 match course, with un-manicured pitches and un-pampered pros) was far more fierce.  And yet, even in this environment of white-hot combat and intense rivalry, Liverpool reigned supreme, not for months, not years, but for literally two decades.  By 1992, they had compiled an honours list that seemed likely to see them at the top of the game for many years to come – unless someone sneaked in and moved the goalposts.  Cue Uncle Rupert.

Man U fans can crow all they want about 20 titles.  The evidence to confound them is there for all to see, like some geological stratum separating the dinosaurs from the mammoths.  That schism dividing the game up to ’92, from the showbiz shenanigans of ’93 onwards, stands out like a Tory at a Foodbank, exposing Man U as the wealth-backed, monopolising opportunists that they are.  And it has all been done with such bad grace, another indictment of this new and joyless age we’re plodding through.  No gentle wisdom of the Bob Paisley variety – instead we had the sour bile of Ferguson and now seemingly a Fergie-Lite clone in the newly growly and grouchy David Moyes.  No loveable old-style hard-man Desperate Dan type like Tommy Smith – we just had the manufactured machismo of Roy Keane, a supposed tough-guy with an assumed snarl and trademark glower, whose typical party trick was to sneak up behind wee Jason McAteer and fell that not-exactly-scary individual with a sly elbow.

The comparisons could go on all day, but the bottom line is that Liverpool at their peak – and it was a hell of a peak – typified all the values of football that some of us remember from a pre-Sky, pre-glitz, pre-greed age when it really was all about a ball.  Now, it’s all about money, and contracts, and egos, and snide bitching to the media if you don’t get all your own way – and lo, we have the champions we deserve.  In the home game against Chelsea towards the end of last season, they displayed a lack of respect for the Premier League competition, and discourtesy to other clubs who stood to gain or lose depending on whether Chelsea  won or lost, by fielding a much changed and weakened side, going down to a meek defeat and imperiling the Champions League prospects of Spurs and Arsenal.  Such is the measure of their attitude to the game where their own immediate interests are not affected.

To apply a conversion rate which sums up all the anger and disgust I feel for the way our game has been degraded – I’d say each Premier League (or Premiership, or whatever else it’s been marketed as) is worth maybe half – at the very most – of each proper Football League Championship from the days when the game still belonged to us and the world was a happier and more carefree place.

At that rate, Man U are still a good long distance behind Liverpool, which – judging by the paucity of spirit and sportsmanship they displayed against Chelsea – is precisely where they belong.  On the eve of the latest meeting between these two long-standing Lancashire rivals, it should be emphasised once and for all – Liverpool are still The Greatest.

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74 responses to “Why Liverpool Are Still the Greatest Champions

  1. You will never walk again.

    I am a Man Utd fan, and boy, I gotta tell you, you all liverpool/leeds fans are jealous of our success. It doesn’t matter how you win, as long as you win, you win. Maybe liverpool were a great side, but that time has passed, and you people better stop boasting about your nonsensical paste glory, we are living at this time, in this very moment, and are dominating and will always dominate this Premiership you rascals..

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  2. I couldn’t agree more Rob!

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  3. A true leeds fan evidenced by those tradtional Yorkshire characteristics of jealousy, bitterness, spite and living life in a bygone era. Never heard such idealism when Leeds kicked, cheated and brawled their way to success in the 70s.

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  4. Great read fella 😉 I am a Scouser,but a lover of football first and not a certain team.Im born 69 & loved the 70’s & 80’s as you it wasn’t about MONEY,it was about the way the beautiful game was played.Now it’s can I get a player from there club sent off,or diving for false penalties ;-( It’s turned into a circus act,pathetic in every act.

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  5. I agree whole heartedly. I am an LFC fan of a certain middle age and despite the tragedy in 1989, I do have a hankering for the old days. Not because of the obvious success we had, but just watching ‘The BIg Match Revisited’, reminded me of the days when the game mattered. Younger people who watch it can’t believe that games were played in snow and mud!! Man Utd always had delusions of grandieur, even before Taggart. One of my favourite days was when we beat Manure at Anfield, to hand Leeds the tilte. Memories that are now a million miles away from the souless world of football today. I still travel to watch the Reds, but year on year it gets harder to put up with the dilution of our once great game. As much as it saddens me. Great article.

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    • Nothing like a bit of balanced and well researched bit of blogging on the internet and this is neither. To the blogger, I expect nothing less from Leeds,,,all mouth no trousers as per usual. Any chance you could pick a rivalry with a local team, Sheffield’s just down the road instead of us, we really don’t care.

      As for Kopite, even when you were winning titles and European Cups, we were still the bigger club, have a look at the attendances, Now you are what you are…and yes I do find it funny.

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      • Yes fella, we can tell how much you don’t care when songs about hating leeds are heard from thousands of cockney and Devon voices EVERY home game at the Theatre of Hollow Myths. Just as you “don’t care” so much that you just had to respond or you’d have soiled your armchair in frustration. Yawn. Next.

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      • As all Mancs seem to say, live in the present not the past………I am…. 1-0 against ManchEverton Utd. I couldn’t tell which club was playing as they both play the same way..YAAAAAWWWWWWNNNN!!!

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  6. Thanks you so much on behalf of all Liverpool fans…

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  7. Man Utd cheated its way to 20 titles….buying referees for their own matches and against their opponents…you just need to look at lasts year’s stats…all the decisions that kept pouring against Liverpool. They derailed our season just like they’ve been doing the past 20 years…

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  8. Get out and have a walk mate, you need it

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  9. Your post really touched me mate, well done mate, well done, God bless you!

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  10. Phil Thompson said that there weren’t any egos on the team at the time, and that was the secret of there success. Chemistry.

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  11. KIM – Spot on. The only reason you haven’t won a title for 20 years is all the millions Man Utd have spent on referees to keep you down. Take your medication.

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  12. Not much about Liverpool as the title suggested, just a bitter and deluded rant against united. Slightly embarrassing

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  13. Talk about Yorkshire Bitter…

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  14. Excellent read Rob, the very very obvious ones will always attempt to back up the Murdoch era when money won leagues titles, yet as they scowl at the rest of us for eulogising about the “great” old days, they long to cling to the Busby folklore. Same number of years on the clock as yourself Rob and loved standing on the Kop late seventies onwards sucking in real atmosphere at a price workin men could afford 🙂

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  15. Spot on indeed! The truth will come out one day…happened in Italy with Juventus….they were eventually found out…..The stakes are much higher in England….has happened …..blatant for all to see. You bloody mancs…the Hell with you. You’ll be blasted off your “perch” soon enough!!!!!
    Only you be that disrespectful….Despicable bunch!!!!!

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  16. Fantastic article. My memories of youth will always involve Lorimer ,Bremner, Giles Sniffer and Jones. They were my rivals but I didn’t hate them . I wanted them to beat Arsenal and Bayern Munich in the finals. I could never say that about the bitter Mancs. They now have a manager they deserve, a dour miserable bloke whose luck might just run out a lot sooner than his predecessor. Good luck Leeds.

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  17. Geez, I think a little bit of wee came out whilst reading this article!!!

    Although I could go on for many a sentence regarding the hypocrisy of this bile filled blinkered piece of writing it just doesn’t warrant the waste of my time.

    Yes Rob, let’s go back to the glory days when football was once ruled by a team in red who were managed by tough old Scotsmen, a team funded by a multi millionaire family who had a monopoly on the national lottery of the day (the football pools), a family who genuinely (tongue in cheek) thought that paying over the odds for the likes of Dalglish, Souness, Kennedy, Hanson, Toshack, Neal, Hughes, (the list goes on and on) was for the good of the game!

    Nothing has changed Rob other than there is a different dominator these days, and your article clearly shows that it isn’t the pretend white rose united!

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  18. Possibly the most bitter, conspiracy theory laden, overt displays of hatred I’ve ever read. It’s clear that this isn’t a dispassionate representation of the facts, but a polemic diatribe against something you hate.

    No more, no less than ill-founded bile.

    Oh, and Liverpool have not only spent more money than Unite over the last god-knows how many season, but have also received more refereeing decisions.

    B-I-T-T-E-R!!!

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  19. I think you are the one who’s changed not the game. If you are trying to tell me that those days when players wore panties to player football is better than now when millions flow in their accounts, then you really must go back to the mental hospital where you escaped from. Liverpool/Leeds died a long time ago. Why the hell are you still alive?
    Thanks to wordpress for giving you a space to blog on.
    You are not a football fan.

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    • stop talking garbage you silly person football was much better in the 70s and 80s and you were dead in that period but evey one still hated you as much as they do today,fact is nothing much has changed apart from the greed

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      • No it wasn’t and no they didn’t………we didn’t win anything but we were still the biggest supported in Britain. As for being hated ..jealousy does that I suppose , I wouldn’t know I support United I don’t get jealous of anybody.

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      • Yes but are you actually FROM Manchester, David? Go on be honest…..we won’t laugh.

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  20. There is some substance in what you are saying. Man Utd were fortunate in the sense that they started being successful again when the money started pouring in to the Premier League and champions league. The rewards available during Liverpool’s dominant era at home and in Europe during the 70’s and 80’s were paltry in comparison.

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    • Yup. A..ha…. So in other words, MU embraced the change while Liverpool rejects it. And MU became champions over and over again while Liverpool became a mid table team. So how is MU to blame for LFC’s demise? Explain that..!!!!

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  21. Do u expect Liverpool to win the premier league soon? or Leeds united to enter the premier league?

    Hahahahaha
    u must b joking then.

    their times re long gone united (man) wld tke their 30th premier league trophy b4 lipool n geeks united tke a trophy or promoted respectively

    united simply the best
    just accept that n b free

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  22. Superbly written and absolutely true! The only way we, the supporters, will regain the game we once loved (it did need changing, but for the better not, as it has been, for the worst) is for ALL supporters to unify, protest and strike until we have COMPLETE transparency and a system based on the German model! ‘Football and Fans First’! Best wishes to all true fans.
    Coogaah

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  23. All about the money?

    Manchester United, gaining success purely through having more money to spend than any other club. Would be a great story, if not for the fact that Liverpool have spent more cash than United in the era of the ‘money rules’ Premier League, for a grand total of zero league titles. All about the money, eh?

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  24. Veryoldman

    A nice article but a bit harsh on the Mancs commercial professionalism as compared to Liverpools rank amateurism.
    As for Manc who said The Moores family financed Liverpool, I believe that only David Moores was a Red, all the others were Blues, so no favours there. Indeed Liverpool tried to sign Howard Kendall but Everton jumped in with a better offer, so it demonstrates where the money lay in those far off days (Liverpool ended up going for Emlyn Hughes instead)
    But one reply amused me as he listed a number of Liverpool players who were very successful at Liverpool but only one of whom was a top name when we bought him – Dalglish, whom we would never have gone for (not enough money) if Keegan hadn’t decided to go to Hamburg.
    United were lucky to see their star rise as the Premier League came about and with their usual astute commercialism took full advantage, Liverpool remained stuck in the 1950s commercially.
    But the article is so correct over the spoiling of the game by the founding of the Premiership.
    None of the fans wanted the Premiership (well none I knew – and that was when it was thought the Premiership would advantage Liverpool over Everton!). We thought that the first division already advantaged the ‘big’ clubs by the attendance money and it would simply cheapen the title.
    In some respects that has happened, but football has turned into a more theatrical spectacle, the title is therefore deserving,in a different way.
    I would think that most fans who followed the league competition prior to the Premier League would prefer to go back to the old rules,but that will not happen and we all look longingly at the way German football is run (though the continual supremacy of B.Munich worries) .
    Perhaps some day the Premiership will lose support, billionaires will find new hobbies to amuse themselves with and advertisers will look for new avenues to spend their money on.
    But football is a sport ,- people get bored no matter how much spin put on it and. one day the money will flow out of the game (hands up those who watch wrestling now) and then the game will inch back to its origins.

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    • Who said the list of players were successful before they joined lfc? The point was, which you obviously missed, was the money spent on them, amounts most other clubs couldnt dream of mustering up at the time (sounds a bit familiar to the authors argument doesn’t it?!)
      Oh and by the way, the Moores family were the major shareholders at anfield. Makes you wonder if it was about the glory or the money seen as how there was no loyalty going on (that scenario remind you of anything else? Give you a clue, read the tripe written by the author.

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    • Wrong on the ‘Dalglish wouldn’t have come but for Keegan’ thread. Paisley was interviewed at the time and stated that they would have taken him even if KK hadn’t of gone.

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  25. Lord Dubbin

    Good read. No bitterness at all. Good use of the English language. Well punctuated. A good effort all round. Manchester United – League Champions 2012-2013
    Grammatically perfect. Now go to bed and wake up in the league you’re in and stop worrying about us lot West of the Pennines. Tata

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  26. Fred Tissue

    Ah yes, the good old days; when the entire Kop, to a man, would bellow out ‘Munich, Munich, 58’ and ‘Who’s that dying on the runway’. Those loveable scouse scamps who would piss in your pocket.

    And who can forget Liverpool’s wonderful style of football?: Hansen to Grobellar, back to Hansen, to Lawrensen, back to Grobellar, to Hansen, back to Grobellar, etc. Is it any coincedence they haven’t won the league since the backpass rule was brought in?

    Bitter does not even come close to describing this article. Not got over Cantona, eh?

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    • You have a proper scum fan’s ration of hypocrisy Fred don’t you? It’s not necessary to go back to the good old days to find Man U fans trilling away happily about Hillsborough or Istanbul or Russian submarines – but you lot always were the type who love to dish it out but squeal piteously liked wronged piglets if anyone presumes to have a go back. Yet ironically the one thing Man U plc don’t want is for the Munich references to disappear – as that’s what your whole commercial whore of a “club” is built on and driven by. Maybe that’s why you sing “where’s your famous Munich song” to Liverpool fans?

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      • Come on rob, lets see you reply rationally to the other readers cotradictions to your era comparison rather than jump on the abuse waggon, otherwise you might have people thinking you’re just a jealous thugs stuck in the 70’s. You wouldn’t want that would you?

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  27. Who the fuck are Man U? Do you talk about Leeds U? If not, have some respect an say Man Utd. Whilst agreeing with some of your rant you spoil it by your anti Man Utd bias. Get a grip and accept that they have been successful but in time some other club will take their place. Hopefully it will be FC United of Manchester but that may take 20 to 30 years.

    As for the shit about Man Utd being built on the Munich disaster (something Leeds, cITY and Liverpoo seem obsessed with), look at the average crowds before that tragic event. Only Arsenal and Everton had better averages, Leeds, cITY and Liverpoo were nowhere to be seen.

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  28. Ahh the good old days, when we could all stand at the football and murder Italians with impunity.

    How we all yearn for the return of that civilised time when the scousers with their trusty Stanley knifes used to welcome us all with their heartwarming cries of ‘Munich’ and references to footballers dying on a runway. How we ache to have one more glimpse of grobbelar picking up another back pass or letting in a comical goal (innocently), or kenny using his fat arse to push defenders out of the way.

    What we would all give to see footballers with perms and mullets showcasing their talent in skintight shorts looking for another favourable decision from George Courtney. If only we could once more live in a time when Liverpool and Leeds weren’t irrelevant mid table and Championship clubs respectively.

    We can but dream.

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    • Not very clever are you? You obviously ‘forgot’, irrespective of numbers, that Man U fans murdered a Crystal Palace fan? One, One Hundred, One thousand, if it happened it’s a disgrace. If you want to get really picky, as I know that Mancs like to, the disgusting situation at Heysel was manslaughter. Not really worth pointing out as the classification is rightly irrelevant…..but you know how sad Mancs are…….

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  29. Rob, you’re a deluded troll beating madly away at the keyboard with a pint of bile to fuel your rage. What a characature of a fan you are! Thanks for the larf!

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  30. Paul Scholes said it the other day the real rivalry is between the roses White and red. scum band of wannabees has achieved something but after rednose era well we will see. Sky Sports is betting for the Whites presence in PL and for a reason. Global audience mates thats pure dosh for them ’cause LUFC is and will be one hell of a tide water shredder love or hate.

    Tare

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  31. The count Mcbean of Mcbeanshire

    Hi rob…..how’s the diet of lemons going? it sounds like they’re working, like with most Leeds fans, they go about their every day life sucking on the bitterest of lemons, reminiscing about the good old days, the good old days of Leeds being in the champions league semi-finals, remember those days rob? remember the years leading up to those nights against Valencia? remember the money SPENT by Leeds trying to dine at the big boys table? my god Leeds spent £82.54m in the 90’s to early 00, absolutely outrageous spending, especially back in those days, the equivalent of what Man City and Chelsea are doing these days, completely blowing Man United out of the water in the process, but back then not one Leeds fan was whinging and moaning, in fact the lemon trade was dying on it ars*, trading blows with Real Madrid along the way to the semi’s, what’s not to like eh?, then it all blew up in your face, Leeds were in financial difficulty, and now are spending years in the lower divisions, it’s got nothing to do with Man Utd, it isn’t our fault, all Man United are guilty of is being a really good team when Sky plowed money into the premier league, that could have been any team, and Leeds OR IT’S FANS, wasn’t complaining when Sky first took over and plowed the money in, WHY? because Leeds along with other clubs including Man Utd and Liverpool was one of it’s founding fathers, they were receiving money just like everybody else, and Leeds fans weren’t complaining because top stars were plying their trade at Elland road, and Leeds fans wanted the good old days back, or rather to continue, because Leeds were in fact champions the year before, but the sh*t hit the fan, Leeds fans need a pantomime bad guy to blame instead of themselves, and who better than Man Utd…………..blaming Man Utd winning titles because of wealth, THIS COMING FROM A LEEDS FAN, I’ve heard it all now…..

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  32. Worst ‘article’ I’ve read in a long time.

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  33. Fabulous article! manchester united and their supporters are not interested in football – just interested only in this horrible money machine their club has become. Liverpool FC have got soul. Leeds have got passion. You only have money. Man city have more dignity. Its good for football to have rivalry but the comments from man u fans about Heysel are just terrible. People died and it does no credit to use it as part of an argument about football. I am a Leeds fan, I celebrate when man united lose but it doesn`t worry me that much if they win because I like football not fretting about your team. Munich was another tragedy, no injustice involved but an awful accident. Hillsborough is about far more than football, its about police lies, cover ups, hypocrisy and corruption in the South Yorkshire Police. I don`t have to be a Liverpool fan to see that. So cut it out man u fans, you only encourage the contempt people have for you.

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  34. The high point of Man U’s history 🙂

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  35. Johny Fartparts

    Rob, your whole article is based on the premise that modern football is rubbish because, and I quote:

    “Since 1993, when a greedy Aussie bought the game and gift-wrapped it for a curmudgeonly Scot, the title “race” has been more of a procession. The honour has ceased to be about virtuosity on the field; now it’s mainly about money and markets, and Man U have had much more of both during the whole Murdoch era. Result: thirteen plastic titles”.

    However, in the Premiership era, both city and Liverpool have actually spent more on transfers that United. That little stat kind of blows your whole argument and the whole premise of this article out of the water, does it not?

    As we know, most of city’s spending has been in the last few seasons, and has effectively skewed the stats somewhat, so let’s concentrate on Liverpool shall we, seeing as that is the main focus of your article. Why have they not added to their titles since? A resonable person could probably deduce several factors: Either United just bought ‘better’ players with their cash, or they employed better tactics, or were better trained or were fitter, or more highly motivated. Whatever the reasons, they all come down to one factor, Sir Alex. Whether you hate him or not, you surely must give him some credit for the job he has done.

    If we go back to the 80s, an era that you are so keen to trumpet, Liverpool were not shy in splashing the cash. Remember when they bought Barnes, Beardsley, Houghton and Aldridge. That little lot won them a few titles. So why are you not accusing them of buying titles?

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    • Alex Ferguson was the worst thing to happen to English football in the past 40 years, and thus he will be remembered. I’ve explained this previously on my blog – you’ve clearly not availed yourself of the enlightenment I’ve provided for you and those similarly deluded.

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      • Johny Fartparts

        Hmmm, conveniently side-stepping all my points about oher clubs spending there, Rob?

        I also don’t get how you can say all United post 1993 titles are ‘plastic’. After all, didn’t Leeds win it in 1992? Are you counting that one as ‘real’, or not? Why then, do you discount the next season as plastic, just because the league became the ‘Premier League’? Was it really that different the next season? Would you have discounted it as plastic if Leeds had won it again in 93?

        You claim that ‘that the whole face of football would have to change to realise Ferguson’s warped dream’. You’re basically saying that United only won the league because of Sky and the Premier league coming into being. However, in 92, United narrowly lost out to Leeds, and already had the makings of a championship winning side. They then added Cantona for a bargain price (thanks!) and won it in 93. The fact that the league became the Premier League had no bearing on this at all, as you are suggesting.

        As we forward through the 90’s, United added wisely to their squad, players such as Roy Keane and Andy Cole, as and when required. However, the backbone of the team was those players that came from the youth team – I think you might have heard of them – Beckham, Giggs, Scholes, Butt, the Nevilles. Do you not give United any credit at all for building a world-class team around mainly local lads brought up through the youth team (even more so than the ‘great’ Liverpool teams you seem to be giving so much credit to)? Come on, it wasn’t all big-money signings.

        The truth is, United DID become a money-making machine, but it was down to the success on the field, and they did use this money to strengthen the squad, but they also invested in the stadium and this brought in more profits and so the snowball gets bigger. Some people seem to be jealous of this method of going about things, and saying it was all about the money. Yes, money was a factor, but as I said, other clubs have spent more but not had the same effect, and there was a lot of hard work and good judgement that you don’t seem to give any credit for. It’s easy (and rather naive) to simply say ‘a greedy Aussie bought the game and gift-wrapped it for a curmudgeonly Scot’ – what does that even mean? It seems to me that you are just pandering to the many ABU’s out there, and coming out with wild statements that you have no hope of justifying.

        The bottom line is: In 92, United already had a potential championship winning team. In 93, they improved with the addition of Cantona. The extra revenues created by winning things allowed them to build a bigger stadium, and add one or two major signings, which, together with great additions from the youth team continued the success. To me, there is absolutely nothing wrong with building upon your successes, it’s what every club aims to do, and United fans are rightly proud of those titles that you call ‘plastic’. I don’t see how the Football League changing to the Premier League, and the effect of Sky, had any bearing on these events at all, as you seem to be suggesting. Every other club had the same opportunities to win things and set the ball rolling, but they didn’t.

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      • I can tell by the length and plaintive tone of your response – reeking of over-the-top justification and resentment at the thought of ANYONE not adoring “Nitid” – that my point about the stark contrast in performance pre and post-Murdoch has hit home.

        Just face it – a lot of fans utterly hate your lot, and feeble attempts to put this down to envy have been shot full of holes ages ago. It’s the arrogance of club and glory-hunting fans, the media fawning, the graceless gittery of Ferguson, now being aped by Moyes (though it seems he’s not fooling van Persie, for one), the remorseless and calculating exploitation of Munich, the kid-glove treatment from referees and the FA alike – all of these factors combine to make Man U classless and detestable. Why not embrace it? A bit of hate is quite invigorating. We use it to strengthen our love of our club, but then we are quite loveable compared to the scum. Just relax and accept that not everyone shares your deluded picture of “Nitid”. It’s undignified to whinge and squeal so piteously.

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      • PS – yes, the ’92 Title was real – we are the Last Real Champions. Four points is not that narrow either. There’s a fable surrounding that, along the lines that “Nitid threw it away” – but we chucked many a silly point away late on, losing at Okdham, City and QPR, drawing at home to West Ham and Villa. It’s frightening to think what the final margin might have been, but 4 points, with the most wins and fewest defeats – that was a comfortable title win.

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  36. Well I certainly appear to have got under the pale thin skins of a few “Nitid” fans with this one. It’s amazing how many have responded to say – frequently at some length – that they couldn’t care less what a Leeds fan thinks – and that Nitid rool, OK?

    Sadly most of these are too profane, offensive, illiterate or a bizarre mixture of all three to make the cut in an erudite blog like this one. I blame the standard of education down there in Devon – after all what can you expect of a school system where the history syllabus only extends back to 1993?

    Of the responses that don’t disqualify themselves on the grounds above, some appear here but others have had to go for reasons of tedious repetition and their remorseless tendency to be deluded and boring. You know who you are, and you should remember that it takes me a fraction of the time you spend on composing these rants, to delete your yawn-worthy efforts with one press of my all-powerful censor’s button.

    It’s good to be the King (Mel Brooks, “History of the World, Part III”)

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  37. cartwright1979

    There are so many things i laughed at in your blog, but the one that i find most laughable is the fact “you think” each premier league should be worth half a old division 1 title shows how simple and small minded you come across ( maybe if leeds would have won just premier league they would be worth 5? )

    The fact is whoever brands the premier league now or whatever the format of the league, it is the top tier of english football and plain and simple numbers don’t lie.

    And a bit of advice do your homework before declaring man utd bought titles plenty of others have surpassed man utd’s spending!

    Au revior,

    Eric xx

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  38. What a truly pathetic, embarrassing blog from a very bitter plastic fan. You clearly only sing when your team is winning. We’re you happy in that CL semi final a few years back, after spending all that money?? Is it really that painfull seeing your beloved LUFC down there?? Totally obsessed with MUFC, like all Leeds fans. Grow up, you sound like a baby throwing your toys out of your pram.

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    • Thanks for reading, feedback from fans always welcome, just don’t stray too close to the tedium threshold and get a delete notice like certain other scummers.

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  39. What a load of shite. The game has changed, albeit not to everyone’s liking but trophies are trophies and for that reason alone Utd’s era of success is no different to any other team before or after them…..no doubt we’ll here the same crap from other fans about some other club’s success in another 20 years but it won’t change anything. For what it’s worth Liverpool have spent more money than Utd in the Premiership era but haven’t attained anything close to the success they’ve had so this Taggart you speak of must have been doing something right…….winning trophies, and plenty of them, that’s what will be remembered, not money, the price of your pie at half time or the salary of your leading scorer just the trophies

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  40. We’ve still won 20 and none of us give a damn what you think. The 93 title had nothing to do with money either.

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  41. Aww it’s cute that there’s a place where all the deluded people come and agree with other so they can make each other feel like they’re right!

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  43. Have to agree with the article. Ferguson was just a horrible human being and made everybody hate Man U.

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