Celtic Fans Open to Ridicule Over Rangers “Old Firm” Claims – by Rob Atkinson


At Leeds United, we’re no strangers to the unwelcome feeling and experience of your club in crisis. We’ve seen our beloved Whites pushed to the brink of actual expiry and ejection from the league; we’ve seen administration and League sanctions. Spectacular collapse and the plummet from the heights of the game to the depths of despair was a process raised almost to a perverse art form by United – to the point that it became known as “doing a Leeds”. So we know what crisis, despair and poverty are all about – the only thing that can really surprise a Whites fan these days is to see a club in straits even more dire.

Which brings me on to Glasgow Rangers FC. There is no need for me to re-hash here exactly what has happened to them over the past few years. In short, it was a precipitous fall, and an unprecedented reduction in status. From being permanent members of a top two cartel, Rangers were sent spinning into the gloom and obscurity of Scotland’s lowest major league. The journey back is well under way, but problems beset them still. On Sunday, for the first time since their fall from grace, Rangers face Celtic in the Scottish League Cup semi-final at Hampden Park. The Old Firm rivalry is back, right? Well, not according to the hardly unbiased fans of Celtic FC. Take a moment to look at the rationale espoused by a group of their fans in an advert placed recently.

Celtic fans - are they kidding?

Celtic fans – are they kidding?

Now, surely – these Celtic fans cannot be serious? It’s a wind-up, right? Are they quite barking mad, these loose-lipped Bhoys? What are they worried or insecure about, that they should resort to this? The whole “argument” stated above smacks of trying too hard, a mean-spirited attempt to cast back down a club trying to recover from an almost terminal decline. Whatever the rights and wrongs of Rangers’ fall – and without declaring any particular affiliation on either side of the Old Firm divide – this blog has to state in the strongest possible terms that what we have here is a bunch of partisan yet clueless fans talking fluent rubbish.

Whatever arguments you might summon, whatever contortions you might go through, leaning over backwards to show that black is white – surely the one thing any set of football fans must agree on is the major factor in any football club’s identity. It is the fans, it has to be. The fans embody the tradition and continuity of any club. Football shirts might change colour, as with Cardiff. Ground moves are commonplace these days and have never been unknown. Players, directors, managers and staff come and go, without necessarily having any real connection to the clubs they serve for a time.

So what is the one thread that runs right through a club’s very soul and being? It is the fans, the loyal supporters who follow, follow, through thick and thin, passing on the supporting tradition down the generations, wedded to their club in good times and bad. And it is those Rangers fans, the ones who have stuck by the Rangers FC as they sank to the depths and rose again – they embody Glasgow Rangers and in so doing, they give unquestionable continuity to the institution that is Glasgow Rangers FC. They also make a total mockery of this laughable stance from a set of fans who feel just as passionately about their club – and who have thus allowed themselves to go out on a limb, in trying to kick a club when it’s down, succeeding only in making arrant fools of themselves.

I wouldn’t particularly care, normally, who wins on Sunday at Hampden. I miss the Old Firm games for their passion and spectacle, it’s for those reasons that I always tune in to watch and would one day like to attend one of these occasions. The tradition of atmospheric support from both sets of fans, with tempers frequently running high on the park and referees praying for the final whistle to come with as little as possible actual violence – that’s so much of what football should be about. These are factors which are gradually being marginalised in the modern game as a whole, with increasing gentrification everywhere and a diminution of the raucous passion we of a certain age remember. But all of that is still present at certain fixtures – Leeds against Man U is one, Newcastle versus Sunderland bears a mention – there is el Clásico, of course. But the grand-daddy of them all is the Old Firm game – even if a lot of the cause and reason behind this fact isn’t of a particularly savoury or relevant nature.

So where do these Celtic fans get off, trying to defuse, deflate, diminish all of this? Don’t they realise how much the game north of the border needs its return, and in full rude health at that? For goodness’ sake, Celtic need it. Surely, these pompous, paragraph-quoting fools are kidding. If they’re not, then they deserve the ridicule that should be coming their way. And, for the record, against my normal neutral Old Firm stance – I would say to them “If you really do mean this – then you’re idiots; and I hope you get stuffed out of sight on Sunday”. 

315 responses to “Celtic Fans Open to Ridicule Over Rangers “Old Firm” Claims – by Rob Atkinson

  1. Celtic fans claim Rangers are an irrelevance to them but Just cannot stop talking about them…. to the point of obsession. In 1872 Rangers were not formed as a business , they were formed as a football team…and that football team has NEVER gone away. That football team has won more domestic trophies than any other team in the world. I like to use the analogy of Disneyland Florida, imagine on exiting the gates of the giant theme park you got a whisper in your ear saying.. “psst this is a new Disney company cos the Old Disney company died last week”
    You’d be baffled cos all the usual sights remain the same… Donald, Mickey, Goofy, Tinkerbell. The big pink castle remains intact…. on the face of it everything is the same. The legal side of who owns Disney means nothing to the customers who enjoy its sights and sounds does it? Saying to a customer that it’s nice they enjoyed their visit to Disney but it’s a pity they didn’t visit last week cos it was a different Disney then. You’d get taken away in a strait-jacket.
    Leeds and Rangers fans go to watch football caring about the team, the stadium and matchday experience. For Celtic fans this is secondary to caring about, balance sheets, accounts and the legal definition of what makes a business a club and and club a business. They have lost sight of the fact that it is a Football Team…. and ever-present football team. I will take my counsel from QCs, UEFA, ASA, SFA, SPL, tens of thousands of Celtic fans and prominent Celtic players and managers that this is still RANGERS.

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  2. Rob,

    It’s refreshing to read an article like this,one that isn’t written by someone with an agenda

    What you will have noticed by now is that there exists an organised section of society ,mostly consisting of supporters of one particular club ,who are quite simply obsessed by all-things Rangers.

    This isn’t a new concept and has risen exponentially since the advent of the Internet,There are online communities who solely exist to hurt the image of Rangers FC.Believe me they are well organised

    Anything is game for them in the Great Rangers Turkey Shoot,They have even contacted mainland European clubs wrongly informing them that Rangers fans sing this or that,give certain salutes etc just simply to provoke violence whenever Rangers visited on UEFA competition

    You will no doubt be struck off their Christmas card list for having the cheek to disagree with them.

    By the way there does exist proof,not that you need it,from sporting bodies,financial institutions etc that Rangers just like Leeds are indeed the same club

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  3. National radio yesterday LOL! http://youtu.be/60gBcUBisT8

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  4. Really good piece Rob, I appreciate your empathy towards Rangers situation. I also think you are a proper football fan.

    Celtic fans have sold out their allocation for this match but could not fill their stadium for a champions league match. I think that just shows you how much they need us. We need them too.

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  5. Mick Dawber's avatar Mick Dawber

    Haha, that is THE best comment on this thread ‘The most competitive league in Europe.’ PUT DOWN THE CRACK PIPE AND STEP AWAY.

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  6. Well said mate and the Honest Toun Loyal would love to have you attend a match as our guest anytime……………yours in sport Stevie Hill

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    • That’s great to hear, thank you. As I said, I’ve always fancied attending a game, Old Firm if possible, just for the amazing spectacle. I’ve only been to one game in Scotland, a 0-0 draw between Hibs and Hearts in 1992 (I remember Leeds got battered 4-1 at Boro that day). I guess I can’t expect any invites from Celtic, so yours is even more welcome for that!

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  7. See the mob from the other side are still obsessed with the biggest club in Scotland.

    Care more about the Rangers than their own club. These clowns suddenly became experts in law, finances and sports rules out of nowhere. Embarrassing how they ignore facts and live in their own bubble.

    54 and counting, we welcome the chase!

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  8. So if we are a new club how come Celtic have sold out the full allocation on Sunday to play a new club as you call it yet can’t sell out home games these days your only here to see the rangers fact

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  9. Its amazing how so many Celtic supporters feel so passionately about a club they say have died. Simple facts prove that we are still the same club and this has been recognised and ratified by the people who matter. Even your ex manager acknowledges thIs.
    The very fact that Celtic fans felt the need to spend £3000 on an advert in a low circulation newspaper trying to convince anyone who,would listen that Rangers are a new club highlights the desperation they are currently experiencing.
    Without Rangers, Celtic are nothing, they are an empty shell. Which is why, come Sunday when the Old Firm rivalry is renewed they will completely sell out their ticket allocation to watch the oldest and most famous Derby in the world.
    Rob, I completely agree with your initial statement and you are right when you say that’s it’s the supporters who make a club. it’s just a pity that some supporters don’t focus on their own club a bit more instead of hijacking threads like this to promote their own feelings of hatred and contempt. Especially coming from a club who ‘claim’ to be all inclusive ;).
    Good luck to you and your team for the future.

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  10. Rob.

    I don’t know if you are aware, but their whole argument (if I may call it such) centres around the ongoing liquidation of Rangers FC PLC.
    They say that company is gone, so the club is dead.
    In the statement they’ve produced above, they refer to Rangers 1872.
    The PLC was incorporated in 1899.
    In the draft of the statement that was actually published in a newspaper (I know, how utterly deranged ) They open with a line saying they played Rangers in 1888.
    So to sum up, they refer to Rangers in 2 drafts before the existence of a PLC.
    They then claim that PLC is gone so Rangers are gone.
    By their own admission, club and company have existed separately.
    Exactly what every footballing and legal authority has told them all along.

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  11. Looks like you have upset the obsessed mentalists’ £3000 for that they really are hurting which is nice .

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  12. Captain_Peacock's avatar Captain_Peacock

    I don’t really see what this has got to do with Leeds United as Rangers demise is to do with not paying significant sums owed to HMRC and thereby indirectly doing us all out of money as tax payers. However, as you have decided to doff your cap the Rangers way, for reasons of balance and fairness I would just like to point out that there are a significant number of former Leeds United players (indeed some that can genuinely be called legends) and managers with links to Celtic so I know which one I will be willing to win on Sunday. Bobby Collins played for both with distinction, Billy Bremner was, and Eddie Gray still is, a fan as is Robert Snodgrass, Gordon Strachan managed them while Celtic’s legendary manager Jock Stein had a very brief sojourn with us before taking over as Scotland manager. Robbie Keane of course played for both along with players such as George McCluskey who wasn’t so successful at Leeds. Gary Kelly is another Celtic fan and he had his well deserved testimonial match against them. Now let me think of Leeds United players with links to Rangers…..erm, Derek Parlane anyone? Mark Hateley was well past his peak when we had him so the legend status doesn’t really apply.David Robertson I guess….As you can see, I’m struggling with significant Leeds United links to Rangers so you are most welcome to help. MOT

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    • You’re barking up the wrong tree mate. I’m not bothered about where the Leeds links are; I’m not that blinkered you see. I was addressing the rights and wrongs of this silly advert the Celts have placed (well, some Celts). I think it’s wrong, so I said so. It’s called speaking up for what you think is right. You may feel differently. Presumably, if a Celtic mugger robbed a little old Rangers lady, you’d side with the thug – because, hey, there’s more LUFC links to him. How silly!

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      • Would you play a game of poker, if the fella across from you had a pair of Aces up his sleave?

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      • Captain_Peacock's avatar Captain_Peacock

        So a few idiotic Celtic fans have annoyed you by placing an advert you object to. Every football club has idiots among its fan base, including Leeds United unfortunately. Glasgow Rangers also have a fair few idiots among their fan base and if you dig deeper you will find a club deep rooted in sectarianism that couldn’t even tolerate having Catholic players until Graeme Souness (clearly outraged by this as his then wife was a Catholic) decided to rip up this blue print in the 1980s. As for barking up the wrong tree mate, I was pointing out that I thought this was a Leeds United related blog and therefore tried to give it a Leeds United slant. Clearly I was wrong in this assumption.

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      • Clearly you were – which is your problem, not mine. Perhaps if you’d read the blog title instead of just assuming all over the place, it might have dawned on you that it’s a little more inclusive than you’d seemingly wish.

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    • In my lifetime I believe John McClelland, Rod Wallace, Tore Andre Flo, Mel Sterland and Ross McCormack played for Rangers and Leeds, as well as Parlane and Robertson, who you mentioned. Admittedly Ross McCormack was and is a Celtic supporter. Gordon McQueen and Gary McAllister have leanings towards Rangers, although Joe Jordan was raised a Celtic supporter. Celtic knocked Leeds out of the European Cup in the 1970 semi-final, then Rangers won home and away some two decades later in the Champions League. I’m sure older supporters than me will remember other players from both sides of the Old Firm divide who played for Leeds. For my money, the links between both Glasgow clubs and Leeds United are much of a muchness, although the supporters of Rangers and Leeds do now share the bond of seeing their clubs almost destroyed.

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      • R*****s were destroyed, and by their own hand.

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      • Why are Hereford and Chester city described as New clubs…Hereford in their first year getting to Wembley…?..rangfers as a team cheated..every year fans in Scotland who bought a season ticket were being robbed..it was an unfair playing field….while every team was living within their means rangfers were spending money on players they could not have afforded under normal circumstances…and before you go mouthing off about Celtic fans try asking other Scottish teams fans..every teams fans hate them…they let their club die..no one wanted them in the league during the vote because they are arrogant cheats…not once did they say sorry for this cheating..they waltzed about greeting that they were the victims in all this…try some research before mouthing off in future..do you know rangfers got their tax bill through…instead of paying the bill they went out and spent another 19.7m on players…that money would have saved them from liquidation but no they were desperate to beat celtic by any means…it was no one fault but their own…the rest of Scottish football fans have been loving the past 4-5years…attendances have been up..trophies have been dished out to a number of clubs instead of the steroid bulked up cheats…so please ask every other teams fans before backing the cheats..

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      • It all smacks of desperation. Is the monopoly to be challenged again?

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  13. One club who spent out with their means and spent money they didn’t have backing another, who’d have thought it. Dirty Leeds and Sevco, a match made in heaven.

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  14. Can you explain how you” un-incorporate” a club/company ? On incorporation the club and company become one…..if one dies, so does the other. To quote the BBC, legally speaking, ” A football club, once incorporated, is indistinguishable in Scots law from its corporate identity”
    To sum up, Same flies, different shite !

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  15. Leeds were not liquidated they were put into administration and then payed 75% of there debts which totaled £4 million allowing the administrators to be able to sell the company to keep them alive. Rangers(1878) on the other hand DID go into liquidation , they had more than a £200 million deficit which spiraled them into liquidation as there was no possible way of paying this back.
    Before this foreseen liquidation happened a new company emerged Sevco Scotland 5088 was formed at the same time Rangers still existed so both entity’s existed . Rangers went liquidated and Sevco bought the assets to the old club and applied to enter the SPL quite rightfully voted out by the current members and had to start at the bottom leagues like any other new team. To compare Leeds with either the old or current Rangers is nothing but an insult to your own club . Celtic fans do not see any bonds with this new Sevco club as they have never played them thus no rivalry and thus NO OLD FIRM.

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    • cooperhero's avatar cooperhero

      £200 Million, you are making up lies, the actual disputed debt to HMRC was £24million. This was a phantom debt as Rangers won the tribunal and subsequent appeal, although the damage and subsequent sale of the club to a crook, are a direct consequence of this.

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      • mark smith's avatar mark smith

        advice you should be taking jim as you clearly dont understand that there is no argument, as everyone credible says we are the same club and officialy we are the same club, the article doesnt need addressing as there is two columns of nonsense saying very little about us being a new club, full of lies and selective quoting. off the top of my head the conditional membership is the original membership with conditions attached not a new seperate membership, so there was no two memberships, added to that the organisataions that gave out the memberships say we are officially the same club so it is a nonsense even focusing on that microissue

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      • 24 mill, that’s awright then eh! Wtf.

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    • Jamie the magic torch has clearly affected you with your financial abilities I’d not let you count your own picket money as the task appears beyond your abilities. Read the piece he was commenting on the ludicrous advert your fans waste £3k on and no position taken on the rights or wrongs of the last 3 years.
      You concentrate on Pacific Shelf and raising money for more adverts and stay away from fantasy bloggers making up figures like £200m when it’s 15% of that figure.

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    • Wrong, Leeds underwent the EXACT same process.

      KPMG are the accountancy firmed charged with the liquidation of Leeds oldco: http://www.thebusinessdesk.com/yorkshire/news/321645-liquidators-agree-leeds-united-creditor-claims.html

      The records are public record on companies house if you’d like to check. Leeds are being operated by a company set-up in 2007 that Ken Bates transferred the assets to when HMRC blocked the CVA.

      The football league then transferred Leeds FA membership, but imposed a 15point penalty for doing so.

      What’s it like being wrong all the time?

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  16. £3000 Sterling, think how many school uniforms that could have bought.

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  17. If you lot had lived with the bigotry inbred into the fans of the dead club you would feel exactly the same. The self-proclaimed “peepil” have` always considered themselves superior to us who come from a different tradition. This has manifested itself throughout the whole of Scottish society for at least sixty years.This is certainly not the time to dwell on these.

    Just be glad that you are able to witness the demise of an “institution” which has cast a shadow over Scotland for so long.

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    • Oh dear the hate is strong with this one, sign off now Patrick or the food bank will be closed and you won’t get your tea. Don’t forget to practice your IRA Chants for tomorrow, are you going to celebrate the slaughter of Drummer Lee Rigby like your “fans” did last year in Brentford? Celtic censured for singing pro German songs during the Second World War, chanted Argentina during the Falklands Crisis and wave PLO Flags at every game. Celtic have been and continue to be a social cancer in Scotland since 1888. With so many of your pals aligned to the laughably named Unite Against Facism it’s only a matter of time till an ISIS flag is seen amongst your support.

      Best regards
      Algy

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    • if you speak of the inbred bigotry of rangers fans then you must surely mention the pro republican stance of a major slice of the celtic support who in recent times have lowered themselves further by disgracefully refusing to observe any semblance of decency regarding anything to do with remembrance day

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  18. I attended ally mcoist testimonial v celtic rob , spent the day in Glasgow and took the clockwork orange , what an atmosphere ., I had no affiliation to either team but could only get a ticket from a rangers mate of mine so sat with the rangers fans ,,, full house and a great 2nd best to an old firm cup or league game…. and yes those two need each other. .

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  19. William Smith's avatar William Smith

    Afternoon,

    I had to say that as a Rangers fan (long suffering at that) it’s great to see that the twisted, bigoted narrative being pushed by these flat earth society members, is not affecting the common sense of people outside of the c****c support.

    We Rangers fans have had to defend ourselves to the hilt in this “old club/new club” debate (well it can’t be called that as UEFA, SFA learned QC’s et al) have concluded that we are still THE RANGERS who have a world record 54 domestic league titles and have more heritage and tradition than our neighbours across the city could ever dream of having.

    We are on our way back and the inferiority complex across the city has come roaring back and the article in question proved its beyond doubt.

    We will not win on Sunday, of that I am sure, but if we do, it will be the best victory against Celtic, certainly of my time.

    Thank you again for highlighting the lowness of these reprobates and good luck in your fixture today against Huddersfield.

    William (Rangers fan with the battle fever on).

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  20. further to my previous comment have a look at what these people are presently posting on Rangers Media “do you know where hell is” for a flavour of what I have lived with for sixty years and more.

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    • cooperhero's avatar cooperhero

      Yes, whilst glorifying IRA bombs in shopping centres and hating everything British. For your information Celtic were the first sectarian club in Scotland signing only Catholics until they realised it was not practical due to the small percentage of was holding them back.

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      • terry palfrey's avatar terry palfrey

        Cooperhero. You are either a fantasist or a sectarian liar. Show evidence of Celtic being a ‘Catholic only Club’ please.

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      • cooperhero's avatar cooperhero

        A Celtic fan that doesn’t know the history of your club, or maybe a bare faced liar.
        Look up your history, you’ll find Mr Malley was extremely opposed to it, but due to seasons of poor results, the board came to the reluctant conclusion that restricting themselves to a small percentage of the population, was a major disadvantage.

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    • Patrick, perhaps if you stuck to Celtic forums instead of stalking Rangers Boards, like an obsessive broken hearted tart, you wouldn’t find so much to take offence to. It’s all about hating the Rangers not loving your own team but I suppose with the despicable sordid paedo skeletons in Celtics cupboard it must be hard to love them.

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  21. mark smith's avatar mark smith

    rab, can you direct us to the scottish law which states this? I’ll help you out you here – you can’t because it doesnt exist, the two legal experts who have spoken about rangers situation lord glennie and lord nimmo have stated that club and company can be separated and that the club continues on under a new company, bbc scotland were told by their own trust that their interpretation of events was nonsense http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-22951447 by their own trust “the ESC said that where the BBC had made the distinction between an “old” and “new” Rangers, as opposed to the “old” and “new” company, it “had not used clear, precise language and due accuracy had not been achieved such that the guidelines on accuracy had been breached”.
    added to that the sfa, spl, sfl, spfl, eca, uefa and fifa all recognise us as the same club so every footballing organisation home and abroad states officially that we survived, added to that hmrc, the stock market, the asa (who slapped you lot down twice) bdo, duff and phelps (who sold the club) also states that the club was sold from one company to another and rangers survived with their history and trophies intact. as well as that there are around 20 examples of uk footballing clubs who survived exaxtly the same chain of events that rangers did with not a peep from anyone regarding their status including leeds, luton, coventry (the year after rangers)and hearts in 1905 in scotland separating from their holding company and continuing on under a new company as the same club with the oldco ebing liquidated – every credible source and precedent shows we survived yet you lot insist in embarrasing yourselves time and time again about this without any credible evidence
    the only actual evidence you can cling to is 1. various newspaper reports at the time who have all since run stories stating that rangers survived and who ran stories in 94 claiming that celtic died, 2. various statements from non experts i.e players and managers mentioning a new club who have all since stated they were wrong. 3. the bbc quote you alluded to above which their own trust said was nonsense – in other words you have nothing

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  22. Gerard ODonnell's avatar Gerard ODonnell

    c Supporters was was approved by the Scottish Legal Establishment and the Advertising Standards Authority before publication. An advance copy was given to Riangers International FC. THE STATEMENT WAS APPROVED AS BEING TRUE AND ACCURATE, AND RIFC OFFERED no challenge. I would not expect you to correct your your monologue – or apolgise for its complete nonsense.

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    • mark smith's avatar mark smith

      why would we offer a challenge, nothing in it proved we are a new club, its just claims and misinterprataions by you lot as thats all you have which has led to you getting laughed at by everyone and most of your former plauers who have commented telling you you stop talking pish, kenny dalgleish called you psychos – everyone is laughing at you

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      • liquidation ,liquidation , liquidation , not administration , administration , administration says new to me

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  23. `Rob, when you dont understand the argument, stay out of it. As per usual over the past few days you – like others – haven’t challenged one point in the statement, only to resort to emotions. Lazy journalism.

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    • You want me to stay out of it, and the Celts wish Rangers not to exist. Sounds like you’re all sharing cloud cuckoo land where, I must presume, there’s some nice, soft sand for you to stick your head in.

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  24. The Advertising Standards Authority denied having any pre knowledge of article and denied approving said article – more lies from the obsessed

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  25. And there it is, defend your stance with insults.

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  26. Rob, you really are a rascal of the first degree. I am not a princess!!!! I am a Prince amongst men!
    (W. Shakespeare)

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  27. Anyway, back to the football. I predict Celtic 4 – Rangers 0. Hope your back on tomorow to take it on the chin big man.

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  28. william hayes's avatar william hayes

    You only have to look at some of the drool that Celtic fans spout to see how paranoid and inferior the feel when it comes to Glasgow Rangers. This is Celtic that cry cheats or blame a ref in 80% of their defeats! The team who whine everytime they get pulled up for fans behaviour, behaviour that includes openly support a terrorist organisation at their games or booing the minutes silences to commemorate the war dead. It was seen at the Arsenal stadium when the Celtic support booed the soldiers coming onto the park at half time. It’s good to see fans outside of Glasgow notice their embarrassing behaviour and  paranoid inferiority complex. It’s also great radio stations like talksport letting football fans the length and breadth of the country about their behaviour and hatred towards anything that doesn’t suit their agenda. Lets hope people don’t decide to shine a bigger light on Celtics past! Rangers then, Rangers now, Rangerd always – Scotlands most successful and most supported football club…fact!

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  29. For me it’s about loving Rangers, for the Bheasts it’s about hating Rangers more than they love their own team.

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  30. As a rangers fan I would like to thank for your site in highlighting what is going on at rangers as a Leeds you know how hard it is to watch your club get into difficulty as a result of bad management from the board thanks for your support

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  31. Jim Torbett's avatar Jim Torbett

    Hello there,

    I would like to apologise for the Celtic support. Unfortunately my crimes at their club have left them deluded and mentally unstable.

    Best regards,

    Jim Torbett

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    • Obsessed ya sick feck.

      That statement says more about you ya hun!!!

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      • Zetec I apologise for my fellow Rangers Fan mentioning your club harbouring a predatory Peadophile for almost 3 decades, allowing his vile behaviour to go on unchecked and numerous vulnerable children to be sexually abused by the Bheast.This is a football forum and there is no need to let the wider footballing world know about your wee secret. The poster really should be contacting Yewtree not mentioning it on here.

        Yours in sport

        Algy.

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    • That creep torbett was a fellow hun like yerself.

      Obsessed so ye are!!.

      Keith.

      Hail hail.

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      • Algy=scum like substance, nuff said.

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      • A fellow Hun? What a strange thing to say, he was associated with Celtic for decades, even after Jock Stein threw him out of the Glue Camp (but forgot to tell the police) Celtic welcomed him back with open arms when Stein left. Celtic the Penn State of Scotland.

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  32. Terminal means death.
    What part of liquidation don’t you understand.
    The uber fans may follow a team dressed in the oldco garb, but thats where the similarity ends.
    Oh and pick out any part of the statement that is false, technically or legally.

    Keith, fan of scotlands most successful club.
    Hail hail, remember noo!!.

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    • But shurly this applys to your mob as well as they transferred the assets to a new co named pacific shelf?

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  33. David Waltewrs's avatar David Waltewrs

    Why Are Leeds so interested in Scottish football ????

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  34. Mike O'Conner's avatar Mike O'Conner

    I am a Celtic fan and find these posts from my fellow Celtic fans embarrassing. You people bring shame on Celtic football club. We need Rangers back in the top flight and are our rivals. Let’s hope we get a good game tommorow without anything kicking off.

    Hail hail

    Mike

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    • We need these people to become a footnote in history. Scotland will be a healthier society without them. Racist , sectarian and bigoted do you want them near you?

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      • Mike O'Conner's avatar Mike O'Conner

        Like it or not we have sectarian, racist and bigoted supporters too. Look what we done to Mark Walters with the banners. Then there is our Irish extremist element with their bigoted nonsence. We are not perfect so we should not be so quick to judge Rangers fans.

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    • Mike O’connor!

      Ru a hun??, just asking like.

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  35. Reblogged this on All about the blue and commented:
    A neutral football fans view of the obsessed.

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  36. the ottoman's avatar the ottoman

    In all honesty the rivalry between the sets of fans will always be there. There is too much history between them for it to cease so soon after what happend to Rangers football club. Now that a huge can of worms has opened since the subsiquent liquidation. Every other club, or individual can now see the extent on how desperate for success the individuals in charge of that club were. Rangers chairman David Murray spent other people money giving Rangers an uncompetative advantage which other teams could not compete with. Which most people will eventually look back on as the financially doped up years. I personally take the opinion that every trophy that rangers claimed since the ownership of Mr Murray is thus tainted. Soon once the media decide to turn the knives on him to get an exclusive it will then become the viewpiont of everyone bar rangers fc fans. THE RANGERS FOOTBALL CLUB will be playing tomorrow. With a grand record, two successful promotions down. One to go and they will equal Gretna, whats that? Oh they were liquidated? I thought you could only go into administration…….

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    • cooperhero's avatar cooperhero

      Will Celtic be handing back all trophies won during the child abuse decades, surely covering up child abuse should see Celtic suffer the same punishment that was handed down to Penn State

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  37. Wilkins' screamer's avatar Wilkins' screamer

    great article.
    many normal unbiased fans around the world are laughing at the green ones.

    none other than Mr Jock Stein also said football is all about the fans.

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    • Wilkins screamer, must have missed that one.
      Oh and same club shite, just pay yer debts ya thieving cheating feckers!!!!.

      Hail hail

      Remember noo.

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      • Zeneca as an accountant, no laughing at the back, do you advise your clients on how best to reduce their tax liability? What’s your professional bwhahahahaha sorry, what’s your opinion on the film investment scam so many Celtic players participated in.

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    • Indeed bawface did say without the fans football is nothing, sadly Celtic are a pseudo religious cult wrapped up in a bizarre republican socialist ideology not a football club, Plastic Paddywhackery is the order of the day, Rangers Fans indulging in the satirical piss take chant ” The famine is over why don’t you go home” upset the uber offended so much they contacted MPs in dear Ould Oirland. It’s our city, where in Ireland is Glasgow.

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  38. so just what does liquidation mean then if not ceasing to exist if they are the same club then they should pay their debts all their debts and no i am not a celtic fan but i could be 1 of those small businesses who went to the wall when they went into liquidation you know the small caterers the florists the 1 man cab company.

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    • Tax liability!! Non payment of ni, vat and tax, wtf.
      Yer right never advised a client to do any of that, my feet wouldn’t touch.
      No laughing at the front and back!!.
      Oh and by the way you should see the
      size of my house and shiny beamer in its drive,must be doing something right eh.
      Accountancy very boring i admit, but lucrative, yep!.

      Hail hail.

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      • A middle aged accountant who trolls message boards posting sectarian comments, what would ICAS make of that? You’ve got a Beamer and a big house, whoa I’m so impressed, what a clown you are. You could drive a Bugatti and live opulent luxury but you still support a club that harboured a predatory Bheast for 3 decades. Celtic a social cancer since 1888.

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    • So what team do you support Shug? The debt was ran up by Craig Whyte/White a conman who is currently subject to 2 criminal investigations so who should pay the small businesses? (Many debts were settled by Rangers Fans from their own pocket by the way) I’ve been living in England for many years and never heard any of the youse ur deed bile spouted at any of the English Clubs who’ve suffered like Rangers. Scotland a country hating itself to death. Thank God I didn’t bring my children up there.

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  39. Tom Johnstone's avatar Tom Johnstone

    Rob may I congratulate on your unbiased and neutral blog. I salute you for your honesty and objective dialogue. I also apologise for some of the responses from my fellow old firm fans who show us in a very poor light. I agree with your sentiments but you will never be able to convince a large percentage of celtic fans who simply do not, nor waunt to ever see the bigger picture. Sadly if Rangers do not recover to where they once were, then Scottish footbsll will die. I have a heavy heart when thinking of where my beloved Rangers are just now. I am not optomistic that they will ever recover. . Unfortunstely for me ( and no doubt yourself), I also am deeply sorry at where Leeds are at present. I do think they are more likely to recover than Rangers. My affiliation Leeds goes back to the Bobby Collins/Albert Johansen/John Charles era through to King Billy Bremner, Big Jack, Jones n Sniffer Clarke, Eddie n Frankie Gray, Joe Jordan , Lorimer, Giles, Hunter, Sprake, Harvey, etc.etc….. You even have the only English Manager to win the Premier League ! Great memories. We had to be at Elland Road at least 1vhour befor k.o. to guarantee entry to the ground. Anyway all the very best to you Rob and to Leeds Utd.

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    • Well, we have the last English manager to win the English League – as was. I appreciate your kind words and wish you well in the climb back to the top.

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  40. LeedsandGersHater's avatar LeedsandGersHater

    One Word “Liquidation” Cant believe the amount of eejits that dont understand the word.

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  42. Your blog is nonsensical, illl informed and clueless.
    Rec was liquidated, sevco 5088 was appointed a temporary license, there were 2 rangers one died not the new one

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    • cooperhero's avatar cooperhero

      Not quite worked out for the obsessed, the ad placed in the low circulation Herald has left them open to ridicule. Everyone is pissing themselves laughing.
      Celtic fans………comedy gold.

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      • They are indeed a source of great amusement for normal people, Zetec is one of the best, a high flying accountant who trolls the Internet spouting sectarian hatred while boasting of his wealth. It’s all about The Rangers for these strangely obsessed people.

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      • That does seem fair comment.

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      • that would be the Glasgow Herald the paper with the big words and few pictures—–way above your level obviously!

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      • cooperhero's avatar cooperhero

        Wouldn’t wipe my a**e with the Herald, ten years ago it was a important part of Scotlands media, by all accounts a fair and factual newspaper. Then people who can’t hide their bias and hatred gained a foothold, who in my opinion are a disgrace to journalism. They have taken the Herald from being a National daily, to being a local journal with a massive drop in sales and prestige.

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    • mark smith's avatar mark smith

      nope, there were never two rangers, the only person spouting nonsense is you

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  43. Gary Bouse's avatar Gary Bouse

    As a Glasgow Rangers fan, that has against tradition in Scotland of Rangers fans supporting Liverpool and Celtic fans supporting Man U supported Leeds United since 1974, I can understand why there is an interest in Scottish Football by Leeds fans with the amazing history the club has had with the greats of Scottish football and that should continue.
    Leeds United as a club are still held in great esteem in Scotland (ask any Scotsman about Bremner, Lorimer, Harvey, Either Gray, Jordan, McQueen and of course the former Celtic Manager Strachan) for their history and the extreme passion of the fans, which fits with our passion for our clubs and is not always seen with other clubs.
    The Question of Newco’s has to be looked at thoroughly as many clubs have attained that honour and some very close to the article that has been written, although they had the good sense to do it before going into liquidation. But as the author of the piece states The FANS are the club and there is no argument against this.
    The last few years to say the least have been difficult as a Rangers an Leeds United fan, but my motto is FOLLOW TOGETHER

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  44. its simple really – in Scots law the club and company are one entity. Therefore if the company is liquidated, so is the club. No two ways about it. The advert was done to wind up Rangers fans, which I’m sure you can see for yourself has worked.

    And you are more than welcome at Paradise.

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    • I think that (A) you’re wrong and (B) it’s sad.

      As regards (A) above, see the various barristers’, Judges’ and other qualified legal opinions reproduced on this thread passim.

      On (B) – surely a wind up should be funny? This one has had the effect of revealing Celts as tragic Gers obsessives.

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    • cooperhero's avatar cooperhero

      Paradise for paedophiles more like.

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    • People who obsess about their rivals 24/7 are not on the wind up, they have serious mental problems and empty lives. The press ad was not intended to be funny in fact quite the reverse, it came from hate not humour. I’ve said before, living down here I’ve never heard Leeds, Coventry, Bristol City or any of the other clubs who’ve been through the wringer described as not the same club. Celtic are indeed a “speciall” club with “special” fans.

      The Rangers Fans were in fine voice yesterday, despite having nothing to cheer about, the game is about the fans without whom, as Big Jock Canoe, said its nothing. We’ll be back and the thought of it terrifies you.

      Yours in Sport.
      Algy

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      • In fine voice right enough—-up to their knees in Fenian blood, no Pope of Rome, no surrender—- the full repertoire of sectarian bile which they have spouted for decades. Does anyone seriouly think that Scottish football is better off with these knuckledragging neanderthals?

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      • and of course their piece de resistance the banned Famine Song. What on earth were Police Scotland doing?

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      • Patrick I don’t take offence to the Bheasts use of the sectarian term Hun on a banner or indeed in song. I’ve been called all the dirty orange/prosody bastards under the sun and it’s like water off a ducks back to me. I don’t believe in any invisible friend of any flavour, Protestant, Jewish, Catholic,Muslim or Branch Davidian if you do I hope it’s a source of comfort to you. Freedom of speech is very important to me and if I think the World would be a better place without The Pope (God bless his wee Jim Bowen face) then I should have every right to say so.

        Je suis Charlie

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      • Famine song? It’s a three line chant ripping the piss out of our rivals obsession with all things Irish. It’s what football fans have done for years. Anyway have to go, time you were back trolling Rangers Boards looking for something to take offence to.

        By the way there’s plenty of potatoes growing in Ireland and the ferry leaves in 2 hours. Why don’t you go home?

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  45. My question asked if anyone thought that Scottish football was better off with these sectarian bigots. You can hold and indeed express whatever views you wish but do we really want to hear tens of thousands knuckiehe ads scream racist sectarian abuse at a football match?

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  46. Patrick were you chanting Hun? 20,000 of your fellow Bheasts certainly were. Seems like you find that acceptable but feign mock outrage when you get a bit back. You can slag me from my hole to my pole I don’t care, go and have a wee lie down.

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    • Your last few posts have exposed you for what you are. Your ugly views are unacceptable in today’s society and should be consigned to history along with what remains of the club once known as Glasgow Rangers.
      There is mote to life than bigotry and hatred.

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  47. One last thing Patrick, you have attacked Rangers Fans for singing songs you don’t like but failed to condemn the Celtic Fan who smashed a bottle off a ten year old Rangers Fans face, breaking his jaw and teeth. Celtic offended by everything embarrassed by nothing. A social cancer since 1888

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  48. craig wilson's avatar craig wilson

    Demented silly bheasts.

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  49. Former Celtic Fan's avatar Former Celtic Fan

    Celtic & Rangers are an embarrassment to Scotland. They are in cahoots with each other at a corporate level and seek to profit from the sectarian tensions they stir up, Truly disgusting organizations

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