We Hate Nottingham Forest, We Hate Liverpool Too – by Rob Atkinson


Let me start out by saying this: there is a place in football for hate

Now, that might seem rather a provocative, not to say controversial statement, in these happy-clappy days when going to the match is supposed to be all about families, and fun. When oompah bands, high up in the stands, are strategically placed so that the newly-gentrified population in the 48 quid seats should not have to hear anything raucous or profane.

But it’s true, nevertheless. Football is tribal, football is cathartic, football is where you get to let off some steam after gritting your teeth all week.

And, for all of that, you need someone to hate.

Hate is a much misunderstood, possibly demonised word these days. It’s not really to be found in the lexicon of the politically correct. It sends out the wrong message, don’t you know, and speaks of the extreme edges of emotion and feeling, where those of pallid personalities do not wish to be seen.

But hate is a real human emotion, and you can’t simply wish, or indeed legislate it away. Properly expressed, it’s just about the best catalyst for atmosphere at a good old traditional sporting fixture.

The professionals should stay out of it, and get on with the game – it’s not really within their remit to get caught up in the atmosphere a bit of hate generates (although it’s frequently more entertaining than the football when rival teams DO let the passion affect them). However, the real arena is in the stands – or on the terraces, as we used to say in happier times.

Here is where the mutual dislike, felt in extreme measure in some cases, can safely be vented. Two sets of supporters, bound by a common loathing, hurl insults of gloriously inventive vulgarity back and forth, each seeking to outdo the other in a contest outside of the on-field engagement. The feeling is atavistic, and there’s no actual need for it to spill over into physical confrontation for honour to be satisfied. The occasion as a whole is enhanced by these pieces of human theatre.

The modern tendency towards crowd interaction being drowned out by super-powerful P.A. systems, pumping out crap music, has detracted from this phenomenon, as have the silly drums and trumpets they call “bands”. My own beloved Leeds United made an ill-advised decision a few years back to promote a “band”, but the masses behind the goal did not approve. The occasional toot and drumbeat were heard, only to be swiftly squashed by a throaty “stand up, if you hate the band”, and the experiment died an early and unlamented death. Rightly so, too. Bands at football stadia prosper only where the indigenous support lacks the moral fibre to resist such contrived attempts at a “nice” atmosphere. Sheffield Wednesday is the obvious, sad and sorry, example of such cardboard measures.

Sadly, it appears that the good old days of free expression, where a cadre of like-minded fanatics could express their hatred of “that lot from ovver t’hill”, are soon to be behind us for good. Yet there are still football clubs and historically tense fixtures which can conjure up some of that old atmosphere, so deeply do feelings run.

I’m glad to say that dear old Leeds United is one such club, so pathologically hated by so many other sets of fans, and so willingly disposed to return that sentiment with interest, that our matches against a select group of old enemies roll back the years, and set the blood pumping with an almost-forgotten vigour. Long may that remain the case – these are the real football clubs, with the real fans, and it’s this unreconstructed minority which is striving to hold back the tide of plastic, family-orientated, embarrassingly artificial bonhomie that so threatens to dull the palate as the 21st Century progresses.

It’s not P.C. It’s frowned upon by the self-appointed guardians of “The Good Of The Game”. And, admittedly, it too often spills over into taboo references, or actual violence, which is never something to be condoned. But come the day when they finally kill the last wisp of hate-fuelled atmosphere, at the last old dinosaur of a non-modern non-Meccano stadium, they’ll be well on the way finally to reading the last rites over the corpse of the game as we used to know it.

And then – why, I’ll throw in the towel, say my goodbyes to Elland Road, and sulk off to watch Frickley Athletic play those bastards from FC United of Manchester – confident that there will be enough curmudgeonly old reprobates on both sides who will be happy to spit venom at each other for 90 minutes – just for old times’ sake.

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11 responses to “We Hate Nottingham Forest, We Hate Liverpool Too – by Rob Atkinson

  1. An article from the 1970s by the look of it. I’m afraid to say Leeds United are NOT “pathologically hated by so many sets of fans” today. They’re pitied (or sometimes laughed at) for their downfall but mostly just ignored.

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  2. Yep totally agree you Yorkshire twat!

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  3. Ropey Wyla

    True football fans love with a passion called hate.

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  4. Well put rob ,,
    there is a place for the hate you talk about and to be honest I found myself wishing it was the 1980’s when the nazis attacked us last week , the reason being that they would have got their just desserts from the fans of my era ,, I now you’re not condoning that kind of thing but it makes my blood boil when I see our fans getting attacked…

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  5. Philip Daniels

    Beautiful article Rob, it captures everything I feel perfectly, your a proper wordsmith.

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  6. Oh how I miss those days. Every team had someone you absolutely hated, Charlie George, Peter Osgood, Frannie Lee, Tommy Smith, Chopper Harris, the list is endless. It was like gladiator, and the adrenalin didn’t stop until Sunday. The one team that was out on its own though was the Red Scum, we just hated the whole lot of them. Happy Days indeed

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  7. Steevo (Forest)

    Exactly right and yes I do hate Leeds. Actually I hate all other clubs. A few more for your list of divvy modern fan drum bangers and daft euro song singers are Charlton Leicester and Palace.

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  8. Hate for the scum will never die. We’ll be singing against them in 100 years. All the politically correct brigade can kiss my ass!

    What an idiot David G is. Who else are all them plastic glory hunters gonna hate? It’s gotta be us huh? ha ha. They just can’t stand our unmatched passion. Marching on together!

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