Could Glenn Hoddle be the Man for Leeds United? – by Rob Atkinson


Hoddle for Leeds?

Hoddle for Leeds?

These are confusing times – even distressing, perhaps – for Leeds United fans.  Results have been poor of late, to say the least.  We have arrived at a point where, after deeply humiliating defeats at Rochdale and Sheffield Wendies, a late and narrow loss to league leaders Leicester has been hailed in some quarters as a triumph of sorts, restoring some pride if not yet belief.  The display against the Foxes was certainly much-improved – but when the best source of comfort and encouragement is a defeat cherished for its battling qualities and narrow margin, then you know that expectations have sunk to an unacceptable low for a club with the history and tradition of Leeds United.

It’s not as if all the misery is on the park, either.  TOMA II is starting to assume the epic proportions of its humongous forebear, TOMA I – echoing swathes of silence are punctuated with a few hollow-sounding reassurances about dots and crosses for neglected letters of the alphabet, but the days drag by and nothing of note has happened, other than the club’s 999th and 1000th loan signings of this depressing century – or at least, that’s how it feels.  This current transfer window, just like the several preceding it, was talked-up as THE window in which we’d be flexing those big-club muscles and getting that squad strengthened as we’ve all known for ages it needs to be.  As January wanes towards February, it’s starting to feel like the old, old story – but we’re still being promised good news, so you never really know.  It’s just that it always seems the same at Leeds United – there’ll be pie in the sky, by and by.  Yet it always seems to turn out to be humble pie, and we’ve swallowed plenty of that this past decade or so.

It wouldn’t be Leeds United, either, if there were no speculation over the manager’s position – even though our Brian hasn’t been in that uncomfortably perilous hot-seat for a twelvemonth yet.  This blog is on record as stressing it’s firmly behind Mr McDermott, steadfast in the belief that all the guy needs is time and backing of the munificent fiscal variety (we’ve had all the platitudes, thanks).  But with TOMA II dragging on, and on, and on – pending approval from some higher authority that seems determined to sit on its arse and prevaricate until our transfer options have disappeared completely – what real chance does BMcD have to get things sorted as he doubtless wishes to do?  Instead, he’s reduced to the soundbites we’ve heard before from other managers – McAllister, Grayson, Warnock – whose one common factor is that they’ve all ended up sacked.

There are conflicting messages emanating from the United support where Brian’s own prospects are concerned.  A vociferous if less than convincing minority seem to want him gone, and will argue that the recent run of results is sufficiently bad to have seen most men out of the Elland Road revolving door.  What I see as wiser counsel argues for patience, continuity, stability – basically to write this season off in terms of promotion ambitions, get the takeover sorted – and then attack the squad re-shaping job in the summer.  Because surely, one day we’ll have a transfer window that doesn’t end up as a bleak disappointment?  Even last summer’s was no great shakes, the major high points being the signing of Luke Murphy (ahem) – and the getting-rid of Ken Bates.

Brian's our man

Brian’s our man

I ran a poll a few days back, and it’s evident already, as can be seen from the illustration here, that the vast majority of the contributors to that, when asked the straightforward question of “Keep Brian or get rid?”, are opting for the stability and security option.  A massive 90% want to hang on to Brian, dwarfing the measly 10% who would have a change less than a year after appointing him.  If this is representative of the support as a whole, then the owners – whoever they are – should feel secure enough in their choice to keep their faith in McDermott.  But it’s notoriously the case that patience runs short very quickly in football and that, especially when new owners come in, they frequently bring with them a new broom to sweep clean.

All of which laborious preamble brings me to the point of this article.  Remember – I support Brian, I think he deserves time and backing to do the job he so clearly and passionately wants to do.  But if the powers that be DID decide to get rid, then I feel it would be time to think big in an effort to restore some faith in the way the club is being run.  I watched the Chelsea v Man U match the other day and a studio guest was one Glenn Hoddle.  I have to say, I was impressed by his evident deep knowledge and understanding of the game as he dissected the mistakes the Man U defence had made.  His is an impressive CV blotted by one unfortunate episode of nuttiness.  A little nuttiness is surely not a factor that should debar any candidate from the Leeds job – we’ve had Clough and Warnock in the past, and I’ve even heard some call for di Canio.   And deep down, if the worst came to the worst, I just feel that Glenn Hoddle might be the man for Leeds – and Leeds might just be the challenge to tempt back a high-class coach who is still young enough to make a renewed mark on the game.

Madness?  Perhaps.  Remember please, my first option is to keep Brian McDermott.  But IF he’s dismissed – and history tells us that for any manager the sack is just a few crap results away – then why not Hoddle?  Wouldn’t we enjoy his style of football?  Might he not be the man to reinvent Leeds as a classy footballing machine motoring back towards the top?  What do people think?  I await your opinions, however derisive, with interest.

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67 responses to “Could Glenn Hoddle be the Man for Leeds United? – by Rob Atkinson

  1. Well there is no chance of BMc going is there,what are we going to pay him off with.Has for Glen Hoddle not a bad shout.

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  2. ropey wyla

    Football wise, I agree Hoddle would be a very good replacement should one be required but, we really need to give a manager a proper chance at Leeds. Plus, although Hoddle has messiah potential there’s always the chance that he believes we Leeds fans deserve all this suffering for our collective sins in past lives.

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    • Ha!! You certainly have a point there.

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      • On the other hand, on reflection I’m warming to this idea. Maybe Glenn Hoddle does have occult powers. Maybe all we need is a Magus like him to piss on every blade of Elland Road grass, our curse will be lifted, the spirits of Collins, Giles, Bremner, Madeley and co will possess Green, Murphy, Mowatt and Lees, and we’ll win everything. Maybe.

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  3. You say you want Brian to stay. Well be more respectful and refrain from this type of conjecture. In Brian we trust. I just hope the new Board do. With funds he will get us up.

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    • Whatever I want, speculation i part of the make-up of any fan – and if you’re wise, you get your alternatives straight as soon as you can, as anything can happen in this game, right out of the blue. Thanks for your unsolicited advice though.

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  4. It is a surprise to me that Glenn Hoddle was not snapped up before now.
    To play his style of football, you need good technical players.
    Trying to do it with our squad would be difficult.
    Our display against Leicester does not fool anyone.
    It is easy to raise your game, and run around with passion against a top team.
    Our problem is doing it every week.
    The transfer window is running out and nothing has really happened for us yet. Twas ever thus.
    Brian is a state of shock with recent events, and I really hope he can turn things around.

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  5. ludlow white

    i think it does’nt matter who you put in charge of the club without investment we aint going nowhere

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  6. I suppose he could bring in Arlene mystic meg or what ever her name was in as a pyhsio. Be real the man is a whack job and a narcissistic one at that, isnt he the same manger of england the players labeled tea pot……. Chocolate to be more precise and how do the disabled fans feel after he outed them for their sins in a previous life.

    No thanks glen not tonight mate

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  7. Another couple of defeats and the result of your poll will be reversed Rob. None of the three BM brought in initially played on Saturday – Murphy (deeply disappointing), Hunt (a disaster) and Smith (a mid-table League One player at best). Stewart and Kebe look seriously ordinary and as for Aribyi, I sense another Habibou scenario. If a new manager is to get money, and i for one am not holding my breath, not sure i want McDermott to spend it. But if he breaks the club record for consecutive defeats, which is very possible, he has to be a goner.

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    • Sure you’re right about the polls, but Stewart and Kebe aren’t fit yet (I do wonder why he had to play both straight away, why not use Pugh?); this is a team for the next couple of weeks; Murphy and Mowatt will surely soon be back rotating alongside Austin; and Aribyi is only 11 years old and really a signing for the development squad

      Hunt is rubbish, but the rest of his signings look alright to me. Remember that – without much cash – he’s trying to buy younger players and develop them. I think we have to give him until next summer.

      My prediction is that BM will be allowed to sign 3 or 4 in the summer on a low budget, finish 7th or lose in the playoffs at the end of next season, and then be sacked for it. I’m feeling very pessimistic at the moment, since BM admitted that he’d given up on this window (doubless because the money clearly is NOT in place.)

      I really don’t see how we can blame the manager. Brown, Austin, Pearce, Warnock and Peltier are rubbish, Kenny isn’t much better and then there’s the rest of Warnock’s W-nkers.

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      • I still think we might see some good stuff from Hunt. I remember two more “H-men”, Hankin and Hasselbaink, having dodgy starts and going on to do OK.

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      • What on earth are you talking about, Rob?

        Hasselbaink scored on his debut against Arsenal!

        Hunt is nowhere near the team and has struggled to get goals in double figures all his career!

        If you’re buying players in the Championship for a million pounds they should be well on the way to being fully developed. Albert Adomah is a year older than Murphy and has scored 9 goals so far this season.

        Howson and Snodgrass had left us by the time they were Murphy and Smith’s age!

        And how can Murphy develop when he’s not in the team?

        How can you not blame McDermott? Warnock was able to get better results out of those players and McDermott has been able to sign 9 players, only 2 of them made Saturday’s team and they were the least effective. 2 million worth of his signings were left on the bench.

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      • Hasselbaink did score on his debut, but was then on the fringes of the team for a while.

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  8. Be careful what you wish for, or should I say pray for. If you want a manager who thinks a player gets injured through a misdemeanour he carried out in Victorian England, you need your cranium inspecting. Perhaps Glenn would lay hands on you unless, of course, you have a bad Karma. Then you deserve everything you get. Do we really want a born again Christian who mixes his Christianity with half understood Eastern Spiritualism? His mentor is Cliff Richards – need I say more?

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    • You could at least get Sir Cliff’s name right…

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      • He’s known as “Kitty” to the staff and fellow patrons of the Elm guesthouse in Barnes. So if Hoddle has similar interests to “sir Kitty”, then our youth players need to get out quick. Funny how so many knights of the realm are sick perverts isn’t it? May i introduce a new word to the English language? Peerdophile,sums it all up really.

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      • Scandalous and irreverent – I love your stuff Mick 😉

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      • It’s Sir Cliff Dickend isn’t it?

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    • First of all, I believe BMcD is the right manager for Leeds United and must be given the time to do the job he’s already started. For those who are calling for him to go now, it wouldn’t matter who was appointed in BMcD’s place… the call would be repeated in another few months if he didn’t bring immediate success and the cycle would go on and on … another short term outlook which can’t be allowed to continue if the club is ever to have success.

      BMcD openly said that some of the players he’s brought to the club were to build for the future and that is surely borne out by their average age … 24. I fail ton understand comments like Strandli’s where he compares Ariyibi to Habibou … the young guy is 18 years of age and was given a contract to the end of the season to assess his potential and was not signed to make an immediate difference. If Ariyibi can develop alongside other players in the academy, it’s cost the club peanuts and the rewards are far reaching. Build for the future Brian.

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    • Cliff Richard??? Really? I hadn’t heard that one. Rob. You ask a question in your article. My answer is NO! (If I were disabled I might get political about it.)

      PS You’ve been reading Sabotage Times, haven’t you? Ask a Tottering fan if they want Hoddle back, I bet most of them don’t.

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      • I’ve written a few for Sabotage Times, but I rarely read it.

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      • There was a thing there about how great Hoddle was, and that it might be nice to have him back, even though most of the players hated him and he didn’t actually achieve anything there.

        He did well at Swindon, I grant you that. But he likes 3 at the back and used to work for Bates…..and he’s Glenn Hoddle. We don’t want his sort in these parts.

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      • You sounded just like Brian Glover in American Werewolf then.

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  9. If being a Leeds supporter is payback for misdeeds in a previous life,us lot must have been in Ghengis Khans gang. Hoddle would be an interesting choice but great players seldom make great managers and boy do we need a great manager. Perhaps his mate Ossie Ardiles could assist with first team coaching what with his first hand experience with car crashes? Can you imagine the post match interview after another defeat? “Well we were unlucky there,things would have been different if i hadn’t left the witch at home”.

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    • That Ardiles and Villa story is WEIRD. Can you imagine a stranger place for two Argies to have an “accident” than las Malvinas?? Can’t wait for The super soaraway Sun’s headline tomorrow – what variant of Gotcha!! do you think they’ll opt for??

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  10. I’m actually with you on this one Rob, McD should be given time, all the successful clubs gave their managers time and stuck with them until at last the good times arrived, just look at Arsenal, the press was heaping crap on wenger not long ago, just dieing to write that he’d been sacked. NOT ANYMORE.
    But if the new owners do sack him Hoddle would be a good choice and I would forgive his nuttyness, for God’s sake, we’re all Leeds nutters aren’t we?
    MOT

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    • Cheers Karl, you take my point precisely as I meant it. I’m glad that it’s clear I’m NOT advocating the sacking of Brian – I’m merely looking at best options in case it does happen. And history tells us very plainly that it might well do.

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  11. I know that you mean we’ll Rob, but I just wish we wouldn’t keep raking up speculation about the manager’s position! We crave stability and rebuilding. The Bates years were very wasteful. I am not sure that any manager could do any better.. Like BMW says, we are where we are! Motes was good at Everton, Allayce was good at Bolton and so on. BM is honest, hard working and a good manager. We have has Grayson who was good and others who have been cursed with our situation. We still need a takeover and a manager who can build a team, but, we will not do it without stability! We are behind BM, so let’s talk about the takeover and who would make a brilliant midfield and some outstanding additions for BM to work with. Over to David Haigh and Andy Flowers I presume.

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  12. their is only one man for the job if brian does not suceed it has to be gus poyet he said he wants it at some stage.look at the job he is doing at sunderland. tallaght peacock

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  13. Sorry about typos – predictive text, grrr!

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  14. glosterwhite

    BMAC is the kind of manager who needs time and is perfect for the kind of board who ain’t goin to lavish funds left right and centre. We,ve been in the doldrams for this long, let’s not have another knee jerk reaction and end up at stage 1 again! Anyway hoddle couldn’t do any better with the dross Warnock left behind!! Give the man a chance!!!!!!

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  15. AllWhiteNow

    Rob, Rob, there is pie and it can sometimes be seen in the sky. There are pigs and they are sometimes seen flying across aforementioned sky. Both are more likely than Glen Hoddle becoming manager of Leeds United. In fact, there is probably more likelihood of Thierry Henry playing for Leeds [remember that one?] than there is of Glen (maybe its because I’m a Londoner) Hoddle wanting to manage Leeds.

    We are desperately in need of inspiration or just plain good news at Elland Road but Hoddle isn’t going to be the source of it. Although I agree, he was unusually impressive as pundit on the Chelski v Scum game…

    MOT

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  16. I think you’re an absolute crackpot, Rob.

    I’ve read your ridiculous views on Grayson. You talk him up like a hero when he did a rotten job and left us in a mess.

    Now you’re at great pains to stress you don’t want McDermott sacked, which is bizarre in itself given that he couldn’t have done a worse job if he’d tried, but you’re saying it in an article where you’re suggesting a new manager.

    Everyone associated with Leeds at the moment seems to be absolutely crackers and nothing they say or do makes any sense. The board, the manager, the local media and the fans are all bonkers. It would be nice if at least one group started making sense.

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  17. Uhh, I support BMc but will write an article promoting Hoddle for his job! With support like yours Rob, BMc should perhaps beware the Ides of March eh… I normally enjoy your musings but this one strikes me as nowt but inappropriate self-indulgence.

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  18. dickoleeds

    McD will be staying and we should back him rather than speculate . no need to speculate either. We need stability although without ownership resolution I suppose we wont get it. I remain optimistic on the ownership deal going through and truly hope we keep McD for several years.

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  19. Arthur Scargill. We’ve got a team that is “The Pits” and we’ll have a great strikeforce,a plethora of much needed (left) wingers.plus he’s a local lad and should our poor run continue and we end up back in the lower leagues,then we’re guaranteed to stick it up mansfield and notts county. I’ve gone off on one here.

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  20. Clarke - one nil

    Neither of the hypothetical questions (is BMD for the chop ? Would Hoddle be a good Manager ?) will we ever have any influence over. But this is good football banter, & in terms of football in general, & LUFC specifically, is what makes the game the frustrating, but addiction, that we all know & love/hate ! I think it’s right to discuss this – & whilst I do still err on the side of supporting BMD, that support is not as strong as it once was. Everyone can make the point that there’s still loads of Warnock players about, we can also lament that BMD hasn’t had the funds he would have liked, we can also point towards yet another shambolic take-over……..but nevertheless, getting beat (& outplayed I might add) by Rochdale, then getting a total hammering by the Wendies is totally & utterly no-where near good enough. Despite the mediocrity in some quarters, the players we have should have been giving us far far better than that, & I’m afraid, in my book, that is poor management. On to Mr Hoddle – a brilliant footballer certainly, & his coaching ability ranks pretty high too. Has he had a couple of ‘fruit-cake’ moments ?……..sure. But contemplate this my fellow Whites……..if BMD did, perchance, get us to the promised land of the P/L do you think he has it about him (with time & support obviously) to get us up there challenging with the best of them ? Or would it be inevitable that once up & us either going no-where, or us fighting for our lives, that he would be replaced anyway ? Whereas, might Mr Hoddle be a man who could get us up, keep us up, & eventually getting us challenging the best ? Leeds are no doubt a big club with huge potential but for us to be back where we hope (belong ?) requires many things – but a sleeping giant of a coach in charge of a sleeping giant of a club MIGHT just be the sort of marriage made in heaven !!!!! Sorry for the long ramble & the contentious points……….but like I said, it’s what makes football great. MOT.

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  21. john palmer

    Its said Hoddle likes to show off his immence talent on the training ground belittling his players and confusing detailed tactics should have a field day taking the p*** with Rudy, Varney,Pearce & co.

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  22. john palmer

    WAGHORN Linked would be just right ,get Fox m.field from Norwich good player sitting on bench if he’s lucky with Becchio because Houghton has no idea

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  23. Glenn Hoddle would make an incredible manager. Hes never really had the opportunity to manage a really big club or asked for it perhaps but for me hes the best England manager we have had since Ramsey. Agree about Brian but he and whatever board we have or will have need to show some real ambition in the transfer market. That and the style of play remains my biggest gripe

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  24. Rob – great shout.
    I always admired Hoddle as a player when I was a kid Sublime skills & unbelievable passing yet, deprived of many England caps by managers who lacked guile & invention.
    Despite the Drewery debacle Hoddle hads more than proven himself as a manager & a good one at that. The England players liked him & worked for him as shown by a good record as national coach – not afraid to make big decisions (Gazza) & also respectful of talent.
    I cannot help but thinking that had it not been for the Drewery affair Hoddle would have gone on to be the most successful England manager since Ramsey.
    McD of course deserves more time & support although, sentiment does not sell me on the ‘nice man’ description bcuz sometimes being nice isn’t enough.
    I suspect deep down that Brian will be a failure for us (although I hope he proves me wrong) but, since Xmas some of his selections & bizarre formations tell me that something is ‘missing’. Devoid of ideas or desperate even?
    Whatever the position, I would support the axing of Brian at this early stage ig the trade off meant that we acquired someone of thr calibre of Glenn Hoddle -top player, proven as a good manager at all levels & incredibly intuitive & analytical of the game.
    Why oh why did he ever involve himself with Drewery?!!!

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  25. it looks the deal is being held up till the transfer window shuts just as well the two wingers weve brouht in look useless to me stewart can be blown off the ball and kebe is no where to be seen

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  26. RoystonLUFC

    there would be something uncannily Python-esque about Hoddle the messiah replacing Brian, the man they call Brian: I can just imagine The three wise men – Haigh, Flowers and Nooruddin – dashing in to Brian’s home; ripping up his contract, revoking his bonus options and sending him back to the southern cross; then bestowing all this wealth on Glenn. All hail Glenn.

    Not sure he’d be wise to use the “Y” word though, given the recent events amongst the Spurs fans.

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  27. Its possible that the new board might want thier own man rob , but please not Mr hoddle and his left field views on life,, its all too much for an average Joe football fan from dewsbury who grew up thinking the falkland islands are British and a las malvinas was an exotic frothy coffee you’d find in the local ice cream palour

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  28. Hey rob, is there any chance of you moving that blue and white stripe over to the right, maybe the other side of those avatar things? The stripe cuts straight through the end of every line and makes it harder to read. Cheers.
    I agree that a new owner may decide to jettison BMD, however I find it hard to believe that Hoddle or anyone else could do much better with what they’d be lumbered with. You can’t polish a turd, and all that.
    Hoddle might be good, and being a bit loopy keeps everyone on their toes. Brian Clough was deranged, but brilliant all the same (especially with his sane offsider Taylor to keep his excesses to a minimum).

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    • I’m always being asked about those stripes but I like em. I believe if you enlarge the text on your screen, that chases the colour away to the sides.

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  29. I grew up in England…12 years…but being born in the U.S. and living here now, I follow teams like The Giants and Yankees…as well as Leeds…and I can’t get a grasp on why there is such a need for instant gratification with my fellow Leeds fans. Why can’t we just be patient? The Seattle Seahawks (American) football team have a coach that has been with them for four years. His first two were under .500 campaigns…Now they are in the Superbowl!

    As a side note…one of my favorite goals of all time was one that never touched the pitch after being punted by the Spurs goalie…and I think Hoddle was one of the players involved in that goal. Does anyone remember it? (I think Ardiles was one of the players involved in the play as well.)

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  30. john palmer

    Lets all remember this is Fantasy, HODDLE wouldn’t manage in championship he has managed England and gives the impression he thinks he’s above all the lower leagues now.Was a wORLD CLASS PLAYER but hasn’t done too well in management anyway.Complained(( rightly so))that he was played wide for England ,then did same to Le Tissier when manager while picking the likes of Paul Ince,

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    • That’s a neat line in being rather dogmatic you have there…

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    • In my own defence, and wishing to protect the integrity of this blog, I would seriously wish to dispense with any suggestion of “fantasy” – which is about as ill-chosen a word as you could identify for what I was actually doing.

      What I WAS doing – and this is flagged up repeatedly in the article – was to posit a feasible choice for manager in the unwished-for scenario of BMcD being sacked. For any out there with their heads either in the clouds or in the sand, this “sacking” thing DOES actually go on. Rather than turn a blind eye to what becomes ever more of a possibility with each additional defeat, I thought I might seek opinions on a what-if basis. As also indicated in the piece, I knew I’d get some derisive responses, because there are those people out there. Others may have misunderstood the gist of the article, despite explicit statements of where it’s coming from.

      IF Leeds – in the guise of whatever owner – DID sack Brian, then I maintain that Hoddle is a man they could usefully look to. As regards his past aberrations, can we not accept that people learn and move on? He has worked below top-flight level and very successfully too, with Swindon. If he wanted to get back into management, it’s highly unlikely he’d turn his nose up at a major club like Leeds, albeit currently of Championship status.

      I do hope this clarifies my stance for those unable – or perhaps simply unwilling – to take a bit of contingency thinking on board.

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  31. I can’t see past wanting Brian to stay.

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  32. Yep,”sir kitty” has even took out a super injunction,prohibiting the media from linking him to the Elm Guest House(thatchers cabinets’ 2nd home)and operation fernbridge. Here’s another one,a certain war criminal Charles lynton Blair was done for importuning in a public toilet. He dropped the “tony” in order to sneak under the radar. Get it out into the open,is what i say. Probably what tony blair said in that toilet too.

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  33. Joking apart rob , yes hoddle would be a high profile manager and it would lift the profile of the club , he obviously got the England job on merit and although I missed his comments on the chelski v scum game I can imagine he came across well ,

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  34. john palmer

    anything that’s made up or not true or a wish is fantasy I believe ,OK to debate a future manager though as 2 more defeats and BMCD Could be joing Hoddle and all the failed managers talking bland rubbish as expert pundits on tv by the way this is a blog for oppinions isn’t it?

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    • It is indeed, but clearly I have the right to respond where I feel an opinion impugns my integrity as a fan of Leeds or as a blogger. I do not write fantasy – I write informed opinion seasoned with educated guesswork by way of speculation about the future, contingent upon possible events in the short term.

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  35. Steve Hanson

    I know this isn’t an incisive revelation or even very original but in all this talk of new managers and new attacking flair linked with whichever manager we choose; the underlying cause of the problem is the vast majority of the squad are the ones who Warnock brought in and those players played so woefully they got him a foot in the Elland Road Managers’ Revolving door. The dross will have to be trimmed from the squad (and there’s plenty to trim) and new players brought in. We cannot move on until the wage bill is reduced and we have a squad of players that can operate at Championship level and compete, Talk of Hoddle style footy is fanciful as to achieve that we’d need players with flair, pace, thought, and skill……all of which are sadly lacking with the current squad.Even Mr. MacDermot could make a case for if he had his own players, things would be different. As the eternal optimist, I hope ‘this time next year’ we are talking in a more positive vein.

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  36. derrysdouble

    plase plase no – can you not remember the boring press conferences and assessments he used to do for England worse than Kevin Blackwell and Howard W put together and then his religious beliefs and his nutty sidekicks – ugh

    Oh and I like Brian Mc so hopefully I will never have to see this come about

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  37. john palmer

    my original comment wasn’t challenging your blog or integriy as aLeeds fan Rob. just seemed the argument was going along as if Hoddle was coming because you mentioned it, instead of pie in the sky or as i said Fantasy,.

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    • I think some people take a “what if” scenario a bit too seriously and react with joy or horror depending on their stance, instead of considering a hypothetical scenario on its merits. That’s a bit unfortunate – but whatever the rights and wrongs of it, I’d still resist the word “fantasy” – that has nothing to do with this blog.

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  38. John the Redbrook red

    This is what happens rob when clubs are bought and sold by foreigners who are just after profit, McDermott was the right manager for Leeds if they would have given him time.As a barnsley fan I’m thankful we have an owner who cares about the club even though this means we can’t compete at this level cos he isn’t that rich.Leeds fans deserve better than this, they are the most loyal in the country,you should be in the premier league instead of some of those crappy southern clubs

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